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All right. Hello, everyone. So welcome to the space. We have OKBats here with us, also
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known as XYZ. I'm sorry for blowing your cover.
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Oh, no.
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OK. Well, you've kindly agreed to share some of your time and your knowledge on the topic
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of post-MOAS asset management. This is about becoming ungovernable, although how ungovernable
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you can become is questionable.
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Pretty ungovernable. You're going to be OK.
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All right. Good. I like the sound of that. So you're very well versed in this area. I
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believe you unravel these kinds of financial structures for criminals. Is that right?
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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So my background is mostly in criminal investigations pertaining
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to money laundering, as well as drug trafficking, human trafficking, RICO, so on and so forth.
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And prior to that, I was in health care fraud. And so there were a lot of trusts involved
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with that as well, because we all know how honest health care can be. So, yeah, I'm excited
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to present. I'll just be walking you through several sections. Most of it will be rather
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quick. And then I will expound on trust in estates, mainly because that's going to be
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your bread and butter. There will be some talk about banking as well as alternative
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citizenship as well as residency. And that'll be it. I mean, it'll be fairly self-explanatory.
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So then, yeah, I can start whenever.
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Awesome. So, well, shall we go step by step and just imagine, although it is the future,
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so we know it's going to happen, you just landed with a fuck lot of money from after
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Mars from selling, hopefully at the top or as close to the top as you can get it. What
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would you advise people to do sort of immediately after that money hits their bank accounts?
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Let's talk about something that needs to happen before all of this commences. This is actually
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kind of why I want to get the presentation going. Because many of the things that you
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could do are proactive and free. And so you might as well just get started now. The first
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thing that I want you guys to do, and this is again, before I received my windfalls,
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like earlier through Ethereum, through several large options trades and so on, is I made
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a list of all of my bad debt and all of my good debt. So an example of bad debt is high
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interest credit card debt. That's not good. Good debt includes things like mortgage, right?
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If you're paying everything on time monthly, you're going to be good to go. And I would
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make a list, people you owe money to, so on and so forth, and take care of all of it immediately
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the moment you sell. You want to start with a completely clean slate. Now, I don't necessarily
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recommend you get rid of all of your good debt. There is one exception, and we'll talk
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about that. But I don't recommend you get rid of your good debt. Excuse me. And give
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me one second. Okay, sorry about that. I don't recommend you get rid of all of your good
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debt. And mainly because in the United States, the Fair Isaac credit scoring system, so FICO,
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basically they incentivize you to stay in this perpetual state of debt. And I know that
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seems dystopian in nature, but it's good. It's okay. You just play the game and you'll
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be good to go. So I would recommend you make a list. You pay off all your bad and good
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debt. The one exception is if you have any prior issues with money management, okay,
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you're bad at financial management, you're bad at spending money, you have gambling debt,
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you have gambling issues. I pay everything off clean slate. This includes auto loans,
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student loans, whatever you may have. Just get rid of it. You got to start fresh. You
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have to start new. It's very likely, depending on the balance of good versus bad debt, that
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your credit score might go down. So I'll give you an example. When I paid off my student
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loans, my credit score dropped by 40 points for about six months. And so although I had
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less debt, they didn't really like that. So just making you aware. Then I would make
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a list of all of your vices. All vices lie with sex, drugs, money, and occasionally rock
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and roll. So it's going to be a combination of these kinds of things. Get rid of it. You
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need to work on yourself and get rid of these things. Money is a poison. I know I've said
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this repeatedly, but this will allow you, the money will essentially allow you to do
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one of two things. Either spiral out of control or enhance yourself, enhance your family's
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life, enhance your life to a new level, to a new echelon, right? You will reach a new
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class of wealth. Many of you will be in the 0.1%. So not many other people, of course,
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statistically, will be around you. Therefore, not many other companies will be around you
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to service your needs. And so the recommendations that I give, there are only so many firms
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that can take care of your needs. I, of course, don't have any relationship with these firms
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other than me being a client. I will never solicit you for any of that. So with that
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said, let's get started as to the initial resources that you want to use. There's a
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resource called privacyguides.org. Okay? You should go on that, peruse that website and
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see what you can do to proactively make sure that you remain as secure as possible. A lot
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of this stuff is overkill. You have to understand the moment you guys have a cell phone and
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a credit card, the government can track you. So don't worry so much about, oh, should I
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only use Tor browser and should I only use a rooted Android phone, so on and so forth.
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It's not really going to matter all that much. Unless if you decide to partake in a career
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of drug trafficking or human trafficking, so on and so forth, I hope none of you do.
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One of the-
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Could you, for example, say you have two phones and you have one for your finances?
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So, yeah, so let me elaborate on that. And so I'll get to that soon. The first thing that you
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need is a password manager and you need to generate secure passwords. This is going to
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be your rate determining step for security. If you have this combined with a time-based
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one-time password 2FA app, so this is also known as a TOTP 2FA application, you will
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be better off than about 90% of the people out there. So I would use those first. I separate
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my life into two different rungs, essentially, two different tranches. One is my personal
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life where I have an iPhone and I just text random people and send memes and so on. And
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then I have a second phone in which I only give this phone number out to attorneys, physicians,
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banking, any sort of finance and anything to do with legality. You're going to realize
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you're not actually going to deal with that many people. I don't advise hiring a bunch
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of managers or engaging in having these layers and layers of hierarchy. There's no need for
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that. I can manage my entire financial life using three or four apps and I have maybe
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two guys that I need to call to complete anything. And so you need to keep your financial
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life as simple as possible. I promise you, you cannot go wrong if you keep it simple.
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The moment that – what tends to happen is people tend to complicate things a lot and
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it will end in your demise. The one cardinal piece of advice I can give is never, ever
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let anybody else sign your checks or manage your personal accounts. The money has to stop
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with you. The buck stops with you. Some of the people I remember had been a little bit
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upset that I recommended Gmail. The only reason I recommend Gmail is because most of these
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banks use very old legacy code. They use something called COBOL. Their emails are often a mess.
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It's very difficult for them to send you emails into things like ProtonMail. I would know
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because I used ProtonMail for two years. I had many problems. There were banks that couldn't
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communicate with me effectively. It's extremely annoying to have to contact the bank to then
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change your email, especially once you reach a certain level of wealth. It's not as easy
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as, oh, well, I'll just log into my Chase account and then I'll just change the email
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app. You got a call. Sometimes they'll give you something called an RSA key. It's very
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annoying. So again, I would recommend just use a mainstream email that's available.
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Out of Hotmail, Yahoo, and Gmail, Gmail is by far the most secure. There is a separate
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program called the Advanced Protection Program, and I would highly recommend you use that.
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With two-factor authentication, some people have suggested YubiKeys. The only keys I recommend
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are by the company YubiKey. Don't ever use anything else. There's a lot of cheaper options
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available online. Don't use them. I used to use YubiKeys. I kept losing them. Now I just
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use the 2FA app. You have to remain as organized as possible, but there's a limit. I tend to
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be pretty unorganized, and so I have lost, I don't know, three or four YubiKeys in my
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short career.
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Just to add, when it comes to, say, I imagine you hold some cryptocurrency assets, how do
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you manage those?
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We'll get to that soon when I talk about banking. I do want to mention VPNs because people often
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ask me about this. The only two VPNs that I would recommend are iVPN and Malvad. The
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rest of them are terrible, but let me tell you, VPNs do not do what you think that they
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do. They can keep you briefly anonymous, but really, if anybody wants you, they can come
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and get you. VPNs really don't help all that much. Now we can move on to banking and brokerages.
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And then specifically-
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Sorry, what was the VPN company?
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Yeah, it's called iVPN is one.
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Oh, that's the name of the company?
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Yes, yes. iVPN. The other one is called Malvad, M-U-L-L-V-A-D.
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Okay. So I, like the letter I.
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Yes, yes.
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Yeah. Okay. Got you.
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There are, when it comes to brokerages and banks, okay, this is really going to correlate
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with how you set up your trust. Okay. But if you are based in the United States, you
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want to use the largest broker available with the highest AUM. You also want to use the
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largest bank available with the highest AUM. In general, the bank that you're paired with
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for your private wealth, essentially, once you reach an ultra high net worth individual
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value of $30 million in liquidity or above, you will get paired with a private bank.
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There are rules and there are exceptions. I think there are exceptions to this rule,
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but in general, it's anywhere from 15 to 30, and they're going to take you on board.
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Here's the issue. US courts have full jurisdiction over your bank accounts. Okay. So that's why
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I would recommend you also have a bank account outside of US jurisdiction. We'll talk about
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that soon when I dig into trust. The bread and butter of this presentation really is
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going to be on trust creation. Once you do that, like 95% of your work is done. So congratulations.
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It takes about six weeks to make a trust. It's not going to be that big of a deal. I
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understand that all of this might sound overwhelming, but you can take proactive steps today. The
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brokers that I use really depend on the kind of loans that I want to take out. If you want
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to take out things like pledged asset lines, securities, back lending, you really are going
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to be paired with the brokerage that your bank pairs you with. So JP Morgan will use
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their own. UBS also uses their own and so on. These rates that they give you use what
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is called the secured overnight financing rate or funding rate. It's also known as SOFR.
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They used to use LIBOR, but now they've changed. Does it make any difference to you? Not really.
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They will use SOFR plus a basis point value to give you these loans. You take out these
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pledged asset line loans against the securities that you've purchased, your long-term holdings,
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and they will give you a loan to value ratio. These guys are really aggressive. I've seen
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rates of upward of 80% loan to value. I would never recommend you take out all your money
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like that. Why do I recommend these loans? Because loans aren't taxed. Everybody wants
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to save on tax. This is really one of the only big ways to save a bunch of money on
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tax is by using and living off your interest. The name of the game here is to live off your
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interest, don't touch your principal. Whatever profits that you end up making from MOAS,
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after you paid off all your debts and if you want to buy a house and you want to buy some
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real estate, which we'll talk about soon, you really just want to live strictly off
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the interest. The maximum I tend to take out is 3.5% of the loan to value. 3.5% of my net
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assets on a given closing date is the maximum I will ever take out. Now, you might ask,
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why 3.5%? Because 3.5% is half of 7% and 7% is the normal average return for the mutual
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funds that I'm in. The mutual funds that I'm in, for example, are just different flavors
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of VTSAX, which is the Vanguard Admiral Shares Fund. It's fairly low risk, although Vanguard
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categorizes it, I believe, on the category of 4 out of 5 in terms of risk. The definition
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of risk is rather nebulous and it's often debated by quant finance. I don't really find
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it risky. I think it is an incredibly broad market platform. They have 3,200 or 3,500
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holdings. The last I checked, you have adequate risk exposure to real estate investment trusts,
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adequate exposure to commodities. It's a one-stop shop for me and I'm very lazy. So it's good.
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I don't need to manage it whatsoever. And so 3.5% is half of 7%. I'll take out a max
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of 3.5%. That's good enough. You can just live off that for the rest of the year.
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The first thing that you want to do in terms of finding good people is you want to make
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a decision with yourself that you will not pick up nickels in front of a steamroller.
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This is essential. A lot of wealthy people that I know, they like to take risks by hiring
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stupid people. You, unfortunately, will lose all your money if you hire the wrong person.
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Excuse me, that's my cat. You will, unfortunately, lose all your money if you hire the wrong
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person. Like my cat, for example. She can't do anything. Chambers.com is the only resource
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that I would use in terms of hiring these kinds of attorneys. Talk to your attorney
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friends. Every single person should know about Chambers.com. Normally, in law, the way that
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people try to enter law school is they'll use US News and World Report to get the law
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rankings. They will generally go to something called a T14 or Top 14 Law Program. Why is
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it called the Top 14 and not the Top 10 or Top 20? Because lawyers are weird. I don't
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know. They will then use a website called vault.com to try to figure out the most prestigious
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firms to get into. Vault is too general for us. We need something more domain specific.
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Therefore, Chambers.com, there's a special tab that states private wealth or wealth management.
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You click that, you click your region, and you click what kind of law that you want.
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It should be called private client law or private wealth law. You will see a bunch of
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firms in place. There are three different bands that are given for these firms. There's
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a gold band, a silver band, and a bronze band. Generally, this is just from personal
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experience, I like to use silver banded firms because they work a lot harder. Within those
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bands, I only like to hire associates instead of partners. I know a lot of people will advise
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partners but partners tend to be honestly a little lazier. Sometimes, they're just overworked
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and they have too many clients. Associates are more willing to work. They're a little
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bit younger, they're a little bit hungrier. I tend to work with those. Your fees will
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range anywhere from $750 to $2,000 depending on whom you hire. To me, it has always been
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worth the money. It's totally okay. These guys actually have well-studied results. They're
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insured, licensed, bonded, held to a very high standard, unlike a lot of financial advisors.
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We'll talk about that a little bit later. Anyway, once you find your private client
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attorney, they will advise you on your future plans. You basically go to them. It'll likely
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be an in-person meeting. You will tell them exactly what you want to do. Hey, I have a
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bunch of money and I want to save on taxes. I would also like to set up a trust and estate
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plan and they will get started with that. The tax plan will generally be handled by
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them in conjunction with a CPA or a tax attorney. In the industry, tax attorneys are generally
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used for people that are already in trouble with the IRS. They can and they have made
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plans before. In general, a CPA can do an equal if not better job. They're generally
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more prone to doing these kinds of things. They have a domain expertise to assist you
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with an adequate tax plan. Your bread and butter for your tax plan is really going to
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be in two tranches. It's either going to be retirement savings, so basically post-tax
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retirement savings, pre-tax retirement savings, as well as things like DAFs, donor advised
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funds, and family foundations. This will always depend on your liquidity profile. This is
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a completely individual and tailored approach. I highly recommend you have good communication
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with your lawyer. You build good relationships. Everything in wealth management is about relationships.
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The reason why is because remember, there aren't that many people out there. The trustee
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company that I work with, I've met the CEO. I've met several of the members that assist
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with the trustee company. They're good. They have to pass the sniff test. My attorney also
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visits the Cook Islands every two or so years. She does a fantastic job.
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Banking will also be recommended. There are also banking recommendations through chancos.com.
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In the US, I've used a lot of these banks. The only one that I tend to like is JP Morgan,
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but you do you. You can choose whatever you'd like. I have found JP Morgan to be the easiest
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to work with. That's all. You tend to use banks for a lot of things. They offer a broad
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range of services. I tend to only use them for lending. I use them for lending and things
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that we'll talk about soon, which include placing liens on real estate if you want to
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transfer it to a foreign LLC and so on. I tend to only use banks for very basic things.
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That's why they don't like me much. I don't pay them very much in fees. There are no management
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fees associated with it. I don't use a fiduciary. There have been a multitude of studies on
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CFA performance versus RIA performance, so on and so forth. None of these guys, over
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the course of 25 years, can beat the S&P 500. You may have people that will market to you
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and will try to basically grift you to a point where they'll say, well, we beat the S&P 500
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for 10 years in a row. Let me tell you a phrase that you should memorize. Everybody is a genius
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in a bull market. I want to know what they're making in the bear market. It's almost always
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a complete wash. The one tip that I have with investments is when it comes to mutual funds,
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you have to hold. Do not sell once it's at a 60% loss. That would be one of the dumbest
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things that you could possibly do. The people that tend to make it in life are the ones
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that just hold. We're all used to diamond handing, so I don't think that should really
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be a problem. But do remember that although it's like tracking the S&P 500 in a way, from
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peak to trough, or basically the zenith to the nadir, it's often a loss of 60%. You can
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stomach the loss. That's okay. You don't need to sell. Just dollar cost average. It's really
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never been a problem because our markets are intentionally designed to eventually melt
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up. When you have a private client firm, they will advise you on multiple things. One of
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the things that I've noticed with private client firms is they're not really good with
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dealing with criminal defense. Let's say you accidentally, oops, you murder somebody. What
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I would do is I would go to, if you're in the United States especially, there is a board
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called the National Board of Trial Advocacy. Their website sucks, but you should be used
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to that because a lot of you like to DRS. That was a joke. What you should do is go
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to the MBTA website and get yourself a board certified attorney. Almost every state I believe
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has its own board certification. I would also look up those attorneys and make sure that
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they're actually in court. Many of these attorneys, they like to pretend. They're like,
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I've handled all these cases. I do divorce. I do taxes. I do this. I do that. That's not
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accurate. They tend to specialize in one thing. If they're one of those jack of all trades
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lawyers, I would avoid them like the plague. Only go to the domain specific experts. That's
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it. This is all they should do. If you want family law planning, for example, if you have
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pre-nups, post-nups, custody hearings, things of that nature, you've got to go to a family
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law firm. There are also family law firms geared towards private wealth. The same goes
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with criminal defense. You want to hire an attorney that's actively doing trials and
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that's actively board certified and that's actively taking something called CLE, which
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is basically continuing law education credits. Civil defense is a little bit different. Civil
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defense includes torts. I won't get too much into the weeds. Essentially, if you are accused
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of a civil misdoing or civil misconduct, your private client attorney will easily help you
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with that. Always ask them for a referral. My attorney is my point person for all of
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this in case I ever murder somebody. Oops. I'm going to head to my private client attorney.
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I will also look at NBTA as well as the state that I'm in. Then I will hire from that point
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forward. Again, get ready to pay up. There is one exception. If any of you are ever in
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trouble with any sort of board, medical board, the SEC, any sort of organization, what I
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would do is I would hire an attorney that used to work for one of these organizations.
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This is how the whole feedback loop works. These people will work in a position of authority
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for five to 10 years. They will leave. They'll end up working in a hedge fund or a large
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law firm like one of those white shoe law firms. You hire them. You pay them a bunch
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of money. They will keep you out of jail. Your main goal here is to get favorable results.
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Everybody wants one thing in life, which is the greatest irony, which is preferential
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treatment. You really want to achieve that. The only way to do it in terms of the legal
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world is by hiring the best. The finance world, not quite. It's not as transparent,
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believe it or not, as the legal world. Based on what I've seen, the finance world tends
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to be a little bit more opaque in terms of reporting, SEC filings, so on and so forth.
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I urge you to be careful with things like private equity investments, alternative investments.
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These often are illiquid and almost impossible to manage if you don't know what you're doing.
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Most people, I would say, they don't know what they're doing. That's totally okay. I'm
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not discrediting you guys in any way. I, for example, don't do private equity dealings
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whatsoever. I don't really know about it. I don't really care about it. The returns that
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I make are perfectly fine. I'm going to stick with it.
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With that said, now, let me pause right here. Does anybody have any questions? Then I'll
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move on to trust. The reason why is because the trust structure is the bread and butter
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of all of this, is the bread and butter of this whole presentation.
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All right. If anyone has any questions, just request the mic and we'll add you up here.
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We'll get some Q&A going and then we'll move on with the trusts. I believe LLC, is it?
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St. Kitts and Nevis?
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Yes, it is a Nevesian LLC that we'll talk about. But again, we'll talk about several
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things.
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All right. Please request the mic and we'll get some questions going.
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All right. Cosmin up here.
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I'm sorry. Can you go again with the apps for the password management thing? I didn't
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write that down.
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No problem. It's 1Password and Bitwarden. I absolutely do not, under any circumstances,
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recommend LastPass. Okay. I mean, whatever else, you could use anything else but LastPass.
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Which one do you use?
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Yes. So I use 1Password, but that's because I'm primarily on iOS. If you are using Android
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as well as PC, so Windows, I would just stick with Bitwarden.
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So if I'm using iOS, 1Password should do?
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1Password would be perfectly fine. I've never had an issue with it.
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And you said something about 2TOPFA, something like that?
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Yeah. TOTP2FA. So that stands for Time-Based One-Time Password Two-Factor Authentication
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Apps. The only one that I would recommend for now is Authy. There are others available.
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Authy is not perfect to any extent. However, this is the one that I've used almost for
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the past four years.
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Would you recommend KeePass?
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Oh, KeePass is wonderful. Yes, yes, absolutely. Sorry. I completely forgot about them.
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No, I just didn't know whether or not they'd sort of integrated any sort of cloud functionality,
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you know, syncing in the cloud, but they're pretty good.
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They're pretty good. I don't recommend Google Authenticator by any means. Okay, so although
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I recommend Gmail, Gmail is fine. Don't worry about encrypted email, guys. If the court
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wants you, they're going to get you. They don't need your email. Have your phone.
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Email is like so transparent. It's like sending a letter, but everyone's reading it. So who
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do we have first? I think we had Squeezes first and then Rascal.
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What's up, guys?
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Hey, how are you?
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Hey, good. Hey, so at what wealth level, like what would someone's net worth be that makes
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it kind of like worth the juice worth the squeeze to start setting up these trusts?
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Five to 10 zillion is good to start.
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Okay, perfect. Thanks.
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So you're going to be well in that area.
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You'll be well above.
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So I was going to ask, just branching off the VPN. So like I have an iPhone, but I don't
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have a Mac computer. So do I need to do one that's better for iOS for my phone and one
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that's better for-
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No, no, I would just use one. Keep it simple. In your case, I would just probably use Bitwarden.
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It's going to be fine.
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Okay. It's going to be fine. I love how you say that all the time.
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Sorry, I know it's a tick, I guess.
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It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. No, it's super reassuring. It really is. It's
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so funny.
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Absolutely. If there's anyone else as well, any questions, please request the mic. If
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not, we'll move on.
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I have one more question. XYZ, from my experience, it's quite, I don't know, take it however
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you want to, but from your experience, have you ever been to Europe, like with work and
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stuff?
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Yeah, my grad school is in Europe, and my medical school.
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Great. So from your experience in Western Europe, I believe you were, from your experience,
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how do you stay the best off the grid? Do you want me to get more specific?
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Yeah, could you get more specific? It's actually very tough in the EU.
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So by off the grid, I mean-
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I can legally protect you. That I can do. Off the grid is going to be tough, but legal
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protection, absolutely, is possible.
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Off the grid, what I mean by off the grid is everything you have, right? Like assets,
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everything. Not being under your name, but not your name as well, because they can be
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traced.
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This is certainly possible. And that's the next section, which is the fun section.
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Oh, that's great. All right, I'm going to shut up. Thank you.
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No, no, no, don't worry about it.
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Great questions, so take it away.
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So when you go to your private client attorney, you're going to ask them for a trust and estate
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plan. Trusts supersede wills. 45% of Americans don't have a will. It's insane. 33% of professionals
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don't have a will. That's even worse. So by the time you get to this net worth, you will
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really require a trust instead of a will. Wills do not protect assets. There are no
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asset protection laws with wills. Some lawyers will argue that there are. I'm telling you,
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as somebody who runs these investigations, there's nothing. You could tear these apart
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like a piece of paper.
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So you really want to talk about trust instead. The trust language is very simple. So let's
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talk about the lexicon first, and then we'll move on to the different types of structures
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that you need to know about. The trust definition is essentially a management device for owning
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property created by a bifurcated transfer of legal and equitable interests. What the
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heck does that mean? It essentially means you as a settler, grantor, or truster. These
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are the three words you need to know. They will all be used interchangeably. The certification
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coursework that I had to take uses the word settler, so I'm just going to continue using
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the word settler because that's how I was trained. What that means is all of your assets
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get held within a trust where the trustee is now part owner, essentially the assets.
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They will act as though they're the owner. You as a settler are Mr. Moneybags. You as
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a settler can also be the beneficiary. Your children can be the beneficiary. Housekeeping
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staff can be some of the beneficiaries. It doesn't matter. There's a lot of freedom with
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trust. Now, within this whole field of trust, there's a really specific category that we
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need to talk about called asset protection trust. There are domestic asset protection
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trusts. These are called DAPTs, and then there's something called overseas asset protection
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trusts called OAPTs. For Americans in general, I would recommend you speak to your lawyer
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about overseas asset protection trusts. I think almost every attorney can agree that
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overseas trusts far supersede the asset protection ability of domestic trusts. Here's why. Depending
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on the state that you're domiciled in, what I mean by that is depending on the state of
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which you have established residency in, your local court that's assigned to any case,
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34:17 - 34:22
let's say a creditor or whatever comes after you, somebody sues you for something, the
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local court holds jurisdiction over your bank accounts, your home, and your domestic trust,
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no matter what state it's located in. I'll briefly touch on domestic trusts, and we'll
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move on to overseas. Domestic asset protection trusts have been around for a long time. The
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first one I believe was done in Alaska. However, the two most common states in which these trusts
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exist are Nevada and South Dakota. The majority of lawyers are actually kind of split between the two.
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They either will recommend Nevada or South Dakota. South Dakota is friendlier for insurance purposes
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and so on, but Nevada also has some friendly rules. But again, the main issue is if you're
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located in a state that has poor asset protection rules, and I have to say out of all 50 states,
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only 17 have decent rules. I would consider them as decent. The rest of them, they're okay. You
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might get screwed. What I would recommend is if you are domiciled, remember that that local court
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that will preside over your case, and I hope none of you will ever catch a case, but if in case you
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do, they can easily tell the trust, listen, I don't care about your rules. I don't care about South
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Dakota's rules. This person resides in Florida. We're going to seize all their assets.
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These are domestic asset protection trusts. Asset protection trusts are almost always, I mean, I want
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to say 99% of the time, considered irrevocable trusts. What does irrevocable trust mean? I want
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you to make kind of a chart in your mind, and I want you to put these categories. Do the assets
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remain in the settler's estate? Okay. In irrevocable trusts, technically no. There are ways of getting
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around this, which again, your attorney will handle. Can the settler amend or terminate the
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trust? Generally no. However, there are ways around this. There are loopholes around this. You have to
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understand this entire game of financial management is just this giant game of chess.
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Okay. So anything that I say, there tends to be a way around it, right? But these are just generalities.
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The reason why you really want an irrevocable trust is because you get protection from creditors. With
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the revocable trust, you get really no protection from creditors. They can come in and take over
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whatever they want. Now, there are exceptions. A lot of people will try to form these irrevocable
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trusts because they want to avoid paying child support or something called necessaries. So
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necessaries include things like food, water, shelter, transportation, clothing, or alimony.
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So if you're trying to avoid all this, the trust is not going to work. It's not going to go in your
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favor. You're going to end up in a world of problems. You're going to probably have to settle.
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It's not going to be very good. You might even incur something called punitive damages. And this
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will be a problem. You may also get cited for something called, you should write this down,
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called fraudulent transfers or fraudulent conveyance. And again, I want you to avoid all these
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pitfalls. And when I was creating all this stuff, I ended up making many mistakes. And I don't want
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you to go through what I had to go through. So really the key words here are irrevocable,
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comma, with a spendthrift clause. Here's the funny story about spendthrift clauses or spendthrift
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provisions is also what they're called. Spendthrift trusts were originally created because there were
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a lot of spoiled rich kids who would spend too much money. So the settler of the estate or the
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trust, I should say, would say, you know what, I'm going to give this kid like an allowance and
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that's about it. And then I'm going to let the trustee, which is basically the company that's
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handling all of this, handle the distribution. Here's the deal. In most courts, it's pretty well
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known that most spendthrift trusts are no longer for these spoiled rich kids. It's actually for
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the settler to receive protection from creditors. So it's rather interesting because the trustee
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can step in and they can say, listen, we only make time distributions. We can't really pay any
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creditors right now. Too bad, so sad. That's it. And so spendthrift provisions are kind of a two-edged
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sword because you have to trust the trustee. But they're generally heavily licensed and bonded.
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The countries that I'm recommending, 30%, I mean, imagine 30% of their GDP are these trust companies.
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So they can't afford to mess it up. And so you really want to talk to your lawyer about an
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irrevocable trust with a spendthrift clause. There is one country that does not recognize spendthrift
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clauses. This is called the Bahamas. I would never form a trust in the Bahamas. The banking laws are
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okay. They're really not set up for what you want to do. I'll just put it at that. There are three
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countries that attorneys will often recommend for a foreign trust. And everybody across the globe
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can use these three. So it's regardless of wherever you're from. There are the Cook Islands,
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which in my opinion is number one. The Cook Islands asset protection laws are so good that
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in fact, several US states have just copy pasted their laws. They're that good. So they've set
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precedents for a lot of the global asset protection laws as well. So the Cook Islands will be number
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one. The second one would probably be Nevis. So St. Kitts and Nevis is divided into two islands.
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They actually have separate governance. So Nevesian governance is different from St. Kitts.
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And so this would be pertaining to Nevisian governance only, not St. Kitts. And the third
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country would be Belize. However, I would never recommend Belize. So if any attorney recommends
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that, I might want you to get a second opinion. The country of Belize, unfortunately, the banking
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laws, their security laws, and their trust and asset protection laws are just not there.
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They're just not well formed. Some of you have asked me about Cayman Trust. Believe it or not,
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Cayman Trust don't have solid asset protection laws. They have very good tax evasion laws,
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but I would never recommend you evade taxes because there are plenty of very intelligent
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ways to avoid taxes instead. And so I would much rather have you avoid than evade.
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Only stupid people evade. The Cook Islands trust laws are such that you will not have any issues
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with something called perpetual trust, meaning the trust can continue basically beyond many
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lifetimes. In the US, unfortunately, there's something called rules against perpetuities.
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They're called rap rules. These do not pertain with Cook Islands trust. The only people that I
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would recommend domestic asset protection trusts that are located in the US are people who are
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foreign to the US, who want to purchase US real estate and want to do business dealings in the US.
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South Dakota tends to be like a haven for people that are foreign. So this is kind of generally
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well known amongst the industry. Now, I'm asked often that, wait a minute, you said that your
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local US jurisdiction has complete control over the banks via something called OFAC, Office of
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Foreign Assets Control. They do. They can freeze your bank accounts. They can seize your bank
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accounts. They can do basically whatever. So the way that you want to do it is you need a bank
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account outside of US jurisdiction. There are three countries that are very good. These are
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Switzerland, Liechtenstein, although Liechtenstein actually recently has been rather difficult to
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form a bank account just based on personal experience, and Luxembourg. So these are the
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three that I would recommend. Now, remember, I have to keep saying this, your attorney's advice
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supersedes mine. Just use this as a basic guide. But I promise you, I'm trying to steer you in the
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right direction. They will take it from there. My bank account, for example, is in Switzerland.
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The majority of my assets are purchased from the Swiss bank account.
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These bank accounts are not within the jurisdiction of the United States. Any court order that is
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submitted to the Cook Islands from the US or from wherever you're domiciled or to Switzerland
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are immediately torn up. Now, the advice that every attorney is going to give you is every
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single court order you receive, you need to listen to. Do not try to throw it away or be like, oh,
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I lost it. No, no. You tell your attorney, your attorney will handle all of it. That's fine. They
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will comply completely with the court order. But the trustee that you have and the bank account that
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you have, they don't have to comply with any of this. They can tell you, they can tell the court
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that, well, you know, we don't really recognize your jurisdiction. So too bad. Okay. There is a
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second layer to all of this for the people that want to have movable assets and, you know, things
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like real estate placed in. So, you know, for stocks and cash and cryptocurrency, trusts are
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perfectly great. I mean, they're great. You don't really need a second layer. But unfortunately,
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many of you are going to be purchasing real estate, right? You'll have vehicles, you'll have
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real estate, you'll have, you know, shares in private companies, perhaps you'll have these
0:44:09,080 --> 0:44:14,200
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kinds of interests. Well, how do you move all that properly? So what tends to happen is your
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attorney will place a lien on your home, okay? That whatever you're purchasing, and it will be
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placed within a foreign LLC. The only LLC that's worth its weight nowadays is from St. Kitts and
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Nevis, specifically Nevis. This is known as a Nivision LLC. They will place a lien on your
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properties, okay? And they will attach it to the Nivision LLC. This is also known as equity
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stripping. So if you just want to write keywords down, hopefully this helps. If you have other
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assets, vehicles, business interests, things like that, they will place something called a UCC1
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lien on your assets. UCC stands for the Uniform Commercial Code. And then one is just the,
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you know, the section of the UCC. So they'll place this kind of lien, and they will attach it with
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the Nivision LLC. 99% of the time, nobody will ever look into this. So meaning you'll never be
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questioned by a court that, oh, well, like, how come you have this weird structure? It's legally
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recognized. You will report it yearly to the IRS using your CPA. Of course, don't do any of this
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yourself. I'm telling you, you're going to run into a world of hurt if you try to attempt this yourself.
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These things are awfully sophisticated. And, you know, I don't want you to complicate your life
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too much. This all may sound complicated, but I promise you once it's done, it's extremely easy.
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I only interface with, you know, two bank accounts, right? I have a US bank account for
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just, you know, easy, quick cash, things of that nature. And then the bulk of my purchases and
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things occur from the Swiss account. So it's, again, it's quite easy. It's quite simple.
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You'll have basically two point people that you'll call. You can call them 24-5 because they work on
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different time zones. So you can basically call any time. And they can do anything, you know,
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anything that you want they can do. You know, again, I mostly use lending products. So any
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sort of auto loan, any sort of home loan, whatever that I want, you just call them up. It's pretty
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easy. It takes them, you know, maybe a day in underwriting. It's really quite easy once you
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have the wealth. But this would be the general structure of how things go in terms of trust and
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estates. I would highly recommend that you keep your estate plan incredibly simple. But I also
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recommend that you hire the experts, okay? Because very few word changes in estate plans can
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completely change your estate plan. And some of the cases that I've had to be a part of or that
0:46:44,200 --> 0:46:50,680
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I've read about involve stupid things. Like there will be an estate plan such that, oh, well, I'll
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give my daughter this home, but only if she marries within, you know, this particular family that I
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like, and only if they remain religious and so on and so forth. I mean, it's insane, the kind of
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provisions that are available. Remember, the more complicated your contracts, the more, the higher
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proclivity, you know, the higher correlation with something called contests. So when somebody
0:47:14,120 --> 0:47:18,680
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contests your will or trust or estate, that's going to get locked up in the court for years.
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You don't want to do that. It's very expensive. It's very difficult. As a corollary, I do have to
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recommend for any sort of business contract or any sort of contract that you're dealing with,
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you want to make them write something called, sorry, something called alternative dispute
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resolution. Okay, it's called an ADR. Write this down. An ADR will basically avoid court.
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This is what most companies do, by the way, whenever you read these ULAs and terms and
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services agreements, they will always try to settle outside of court. And I would really
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recommend you do that. You never want to end up in court. I'm telling you, it's super expensive.
0:47:57,560 --> 0:48:02,040
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It's very annoying. These things are constantly delayed. Yeah, go ahead.
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Can you repeat that one more time? What was it?
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Alternative dispute resolution.
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Alternative, thanks.
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Yeah, no problem. Okay. So generally with a basic trust structure, remember you have a settler,
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a trustee, the trustee can almost never be yourself. There are like very few exceptions.
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Okay. But it's generally a trustee is generally a licensed and bonded company. You can appoint
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your attorney as a trustee. I wouldn't, I would really just want to appoint a specific company
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that's licensed and bonded and kind of time tested with it. All of these things are built
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through word of mouth and through relationships. Okay. So be kind to your lawyers. They're going
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to recommend you to the best places, especially if you use the best firms. Once you find one person
0:48:51,160 --> 0:48:55,880
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that can kind of guide you, you know, toward the right direction, you're going to meet plenty of
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phenomenal people that are, you know, the, like the craftsmen of their job, right? They're the
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best at what they do. And so those are the people that you want to hire. So with regards to trust,
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I believe that's it. Does anybody have any questions? I know, I know that was a big
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section, but this is kind of the bread and butter of it. I have a question, but it's not related to
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that. Just a little bit earlier. That's fine. No, don't worry about it. What's up? So, you know,
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by the way, you should definitely teach courses. I mean, the amount of information you're sharing is
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you know, incredible. So I got to, you know, say, I have, but there, there, there were,
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there were medically related. So I taught physiology as well as pharmacology, but
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nothing with regards to law or finance. I don't know. Well, yeah. Well, what's interesting one,
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just one thing before I ask the question is, I guess you said you worked investigating in
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healthcare, right? Fraud, I suppose. Yes. Yes. Medicare fraud, as well as clinical trial fraud.
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Sure. Pharmaceutical fraud as well. Now that's interesting because I do have a background in
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the medical field and have family. One's kind of a whistleblower. So it's, it's pretty interesting.
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So anyways, one of the two, yeah. So the question I have is, and, you know, I've been listening to
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the PB show and all that and what everyone has to say. Sure. If there is an idea of say,
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a blockchain, you know, during some, some type of squeeze, do we have to set up some type of
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cripple crypto wallet beforehand? Or is there a timeframe for that? Yeah. So I actually forgot
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about, I forgot to mention that the way the onboarding is going to work likely with this,
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this blockchain exchange that I've been kind of ranting about essentially the onboarding will be
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taken care of. It's going to be very easy to do. There are several tools that they now have
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that will basically allow you to do basically a username and password and email access. And then
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once you want to transfer out those assets, you can use an alternative crypto wallet if you'd like.
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Here's the deal. This is going to be a very unpopular opinion. I hate hardware wallets.
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I've never used one. Okay. I have never had an issue. I've never had a hack. Nothing's ever
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happened. I use a combination of MetaMask, M-E-T-A, mask, as well as my Ether wallet.
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There's one wallet that I have that's only for storage. So I do not interact with any DeFi
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protocols whatsoever. This is just like my set it and forget it wallet. And I just kind of keep it
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on the side. The seed phrases that you'll get, if you lose them, you're going to lose your life.
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Do you understand? You can't, you know, there's no forgot password feature. I absolutely do not
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recommend smart contract wallets right now. Smart contracts are inherently flawed on the Ethereum
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blockchain because they're not really formally verified. They're just a bunch of issues with
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them. I wouldn't trust them for now. I would just wait. Some crypto advocates will say, oh,
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but they were audited. Well, listen, let me tell you something. Everything's audited. Okay. And
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they still come up with errors. And so, you know, that one I would keep on the side. And then look,
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if you want to play with decentralized finance protocols, you make a second wallet and you never
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have the two wallets communicate with one another. Because remember, all of these transactions are
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public, right? Somebody can look these addresses up. So I like MetaMask as well as my Ether wallet
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for Bitcoin. I really only like Blockstream Green. There is another one called Electrum that a lot of
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people use. I haven't used it. I'm sure it's okay. It's been time tested. So does that kind of help?
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Yeah, that's it. The other. Oh, right. Right. I forgot to mention this. Okay.
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Cryptocurrency rules are really strange in terms of trust and asset protection. So right now,
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right now, what at least my trustee advised was essentially you write your address down,
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you send it to your lawyer, and they will add a provision within your trust saying,
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okay, this following address is owned by this trust. And they were like, well, it should be
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good enough. It's kind of all nascent right now. But again, your attorney will keep up with the
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compliance. It's not your job to you're paying the guy to do it, right. And so all these things can be
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held by the trust. It's just real estate and other sort of these kinds of movable assets that are
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within US jurisdiction. They're tough. They're like a little bit tougher. They require something
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called equity stripping that I talked about. Hopefully that helps. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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Thank you. Yeah.
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Yeah, go ahead, Cosmin. And then we got.
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Yeah, I want to make a thing very clear for everyone who's listening.
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XYZ is talking from a perspective of common law, there's a really big difference between
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common law and civil law. So whoever is like from Eastern Europe, for example, you might have
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civil law, 75% of the countries on the globe have civil law. And common law would be found in the
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USA and the United Kingdom. And there's like the Quran in the UAE. So when he so to not get confused
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in the future when you're maybe setting up a trust fund in the country that you're activating
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or moving your assets or all this and that. Most of the all the laws that he's talking about are
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from the from common law, which is totally different from civil law. There are similar
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similar laws in your country, but you need to do your own research or talk with a lawyer
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or whoever is from Eastern Europe. Just be in touch with me. I can help with no worries.
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Yeah, there are differences, but I assure you there are still ways of protecting your assets.
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So they will help. By the way, if anybody's located in Louisiana, in the state of Louisiana,
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they do not use common law. They use a version of like Spanish slash French law. And so,
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you know, they have a couple of different things, but you can still get pretty well protected.
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I believe they use the constitution from 1866, the Belgian one.
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That's I don't think so, but OK, that's fine.
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Go ahead, Roscoe.
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So for like, I know nothing about cryptocurrency, really. So would you recommend to like diversify
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in crypto, like a little bit of, you know, Bitcoin and some Ethereum or do you prefer one
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over another? I feel uncomfortable giving any specific cryptocurrency advice. I'm sorry.
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No problem. I don't want to. You know, the problem is this industry is ripe with scam.
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What I will tell you is the two largest market caps right now are Bitcoin and Ethereum.
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Likely what's going to happen is based on just the way the developer movement is going,
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Ethereum will be the mainstay global settlement, a settlement layer in terms of finance.
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Bitcoin doesn't really do anything. It can be used as collateral in a way.
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But it's kind of I don't mean to call it a pet rock, but it can't really build anything off of
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Bitcoin. And, you know, if anybody has arguments against that, fight me. I mean, this is like,
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this is an endless battle that people have in Discord and things like that. It's very annoying.
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I'll take that answer. That's a good answer for me. That's, you know, more than I need.
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Thank you. Prettyelle, do you have anything to say?
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Yeah, I have a quick question. XYZ, if a trust is going to be able to do a lot of
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if a trust or a will is being contested, does that mean it freezes the assets under the trust?
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And so does the trustee does does it prevent dispersion of the assets at any point if it's
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being contested? It could. It will depend on the trustee. There is something called the
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Clayton doctrine that you want to look into and then your attorney can assist with that.
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So it really depends on the jurisdiction that you're in. It also depends on the trust that
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it's in. So I apologize to give you such a nebulous answer. But, you know, I want to be
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as accurate as possible. But look into something called the Clayton doctrine. CLAFLIN.
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Okay, appreciate it. Thanks.
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Of course.
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Yo, Bats, could you just clarify again the link between the Nevis LLC and the Cooke's trust?
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Absolutely. Okay. So in your let's take a blank sheet of paper, okay, and on top,
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you want to put a box and you want to and you want to write in Cooke for Cooke Islands Trust.
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Okay. And you want to draw an arrow connecting this box to another box called Nevis LLC in this
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case. Okay. The trustee is the Cooke Islands Trust, right? Because the trustee will be located
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in the Cooke Islands. All right. The trustee is a co-manager of the LLC.
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Okay. The settler, which is you, is also the co-manager of the LLC. The coolest part about
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all of this, and this is what I just love this law, okay, because it's fun and I like corruption.
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Okay. The coolest part about all this, about this law is let's say you're in trouble and
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somebody sues you and tries to unwrap the LLC's assets, which by the way, let me tell you something
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it's very, very, very tough to do. Okay. It's like basically impossible unless if you're committing
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acts of terrorism, drug trafficking up to a certain limit, or sorry, beyond a certain limit
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or human trafficking, it's basically impossible to open up the LLC and the assets within that.
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So if you're ever in trouble, the trustee takes over as the manager.
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Now you might say, but wait a minute, it's as if the trustee has full control over my assets.
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That's not true. The reason why is because you have the LLC, you have much more control of your
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assets now that there's an LLC in place. There's like kind of an additional layer of security.
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Do you remember when we were talking about the spend thrift clause? So the spend thrift clause
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basically allows the trustee to have even more jurisdiction over the funds that are distributed
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and it kind of allows them to act as an owner. I have never seen a case of a trustee committing
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fraud. Okay. The only two cases that I've ever seen were domestic trusts. So they were located
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in the United States. One was in Chicago and I believe one was in Nevada. So I've never seen
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any Cook Islands trust companies that manage hundreds of billions of dollars of assets
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mismanage this. So the two largest companies I believe are Aura, that's O-R-A, this is a trustee
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company. The owner's a little bit eccentric, but like, I don't know, if you like that, go for it.
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And then the other one is called Southpac. So South P-A-C.
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So the needless LLC will provide you additional protection and additional control over your own
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assets. And remember, if you tie it with a bank account that's outside of your jurisdiction,
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you will be untouchable, I assure you. It's basically your fate is sealed at that point.
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Only the highest crimes will get attention. And even that, it's actually, it's kind of
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difficult to do. It takes a long time. These corridors take forever.
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Wow, that's awesome. I appreciate your answer.
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Oh, wait, I need to comment on something called the lookback period. I actually forgot about this.
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This is, I kind of commented on it briefly, but then I forgot. So remember when we were talking
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about fraudulent transfers and fraudulent conveyance? Well, let's assume a creditor
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sues you today, right? You've received something in the mail and they're like, you owe us $10
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million, right? And you'd say, you know what, I'm going to form a trust today. So you contact a
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lawyer, they form a trust. It takes about 30 days to six weeks to form. And the creditor comes in
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and says, hey, that's fraudulent conveyance. That's a fraudulent transaction. Generally,
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Cook Island's trusts have a lookback period of two years. So basically, you don't want a creditor
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suing you within that period of two years. Here's the problem, though. Is that really practical?
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No. They're going to have to serve you in a Cook Island's court using the Cook Island's court laws.
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So it's very difficult for them to do. They will more than likely, I mean, I don't know, 98% of
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the cases that I've seen, they just settle out of court, right? They'll just get it settled.
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The domestic asset trusts, the domestic asset protection trust, the DAPTs,
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tend to have a lookback period of four years and they're super friendly with creditors. Okay,
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let me tell you. Anytime we see a US trust, it's kind of like, okay, great, we got them dead to
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rights. So hope that helps. Nice one. You know, just about the ownership of the trust, you said
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once something kicks off, the ownership pretty much transfers technically to the trustee.
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I was just wondering, how is that kind of managed? Is there sort of like a share thing where it's
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like... So there's a relationship with the trustee and the trustee is almost always going to listen,
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not almost always, they generally always listen to the settler. So the settler gets full rights
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to the assets, but you have to understand the name of the game here is to separate yourself
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from your assets. That way, when somebody sues you as the individual, they can't tie you as the
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person to the assets, right? They'll make the argument that, well, no, but the trustee actually
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owns these assets. These aren't even mine. I'm just kind of borrowing them and having fun with
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the house, with the boat, with the car, with the whatever. Yeah, it's interesting how that works,
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because technically your assets aren't owned by you. You are trusting the trustee very much.
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Yeah, yeah. It is kind of a... You know, this is why I always recommend you get a reputed trustee
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instead of just like a person or a lawyer, like an individual lawyer. I wouldn't trust that at all.
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These trustee companies are time tested. These have been around...
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For anywhere from 30 to 100 years. Yeah, they're good to go.
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So what you recommended was ORA or Southpac or ORA.
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Yeah, ORA or Southpac. But again, your attorney's advice supersedes mine.
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Yep. Sure. Sure. Right. I'm going to play this for my attorney.
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Oh my God. Who is this Milwaukee guy?
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Yeah, yeah. Don't trust his taste in tools, but the rest of it, solid. If anyone has any more
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questions, please feel free. We'll consider this the Q&A section.
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There is one more very quick section on alternative residency and citizenship.
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Oh, awesome. Yeah. So again, go to your private client attorney,
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get a referral. Some of them do it. Some of them don't. This is actually a very nuanced field.
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Please do not go on YouTube. Okay. This industry is ripe with scam. Now you might say,
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but you've been saying that about every industry. Yeah. And what? Like, so what?
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So what I would do is there is one gold standard company that most of the wealthy people around me
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have used. And I am also currently using, and it's called Henley and Partners, H-E-N-L-E-Y
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and Partners. They're also called Henley Global. It's the same thing. And so give them a call and
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just ask them, tell them what your needs are. And they will recommend either residency or citizenship
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based on the strength of your current extant passport. So whatever passport you're tied with,
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they're going to recommend something else for you. So, you know, US passports tend to be very strong.
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And so they, because we're number one, and they'll tend to advise, you know, alternative residency
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instead of citizenship. But again, speak with the experts. There are requirements. There are some
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weird requirements. Like for example, with my Swiss residency, I believe the taxes, the minimum
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taxes I have to pay per year for the Swiss residency is 250,000 shift. So shift means Swiss
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franc. And so you have to kind of, you know, do a risk benefit analysis and say, should I actually
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be doing this? The reason why I recommend you ask about this is because yes, although I do find
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America to be number one, I'm also very scared of the way the government is working. They're
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over encroaching upon our own sovereignty, right? They're splitting every single topic into red and
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blue, and it's dividing all of us. And so I'm not here for it. That's nonsense. You know, the title
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of this talk is called become ungovernable. Well, this is how you do it. You got to hedge your bet.
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And that's it. That's it for that section. In terms of EU citizenship, the easiest way to know
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that I just want you to know that this is recorded. And I'm just glad that you shadowed America at
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least once during this time. I didn't I mean, I didn't I don't recall. I plead the fifth.
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So the easiest EU citizenship to get right now is Malta. Okay. The wait time I've heard it varies,
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but I've had a couple of friends do it. It took one of them, it took them 36 months to get.
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It has certain real estate requirements. It has certain asset requirements,
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but it always depends. It really just depends on the year that you're applying in.
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And so, you know, I wish you best of luck with that. And I really would consider hedging your,
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you know, hedging your residency, hedging your citizenship. Oh, by the way, if you any of you
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renounce US citizenship, just understand that you lose a lot of your rights, including the right to
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own firearms. So just just be careful with that. There are a lot of these little rules,
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but it's OK. Your attorneys will let you know that like what you're signing up for.
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Go ahead, Roscoe. All right. So I just wanted to ask. So so my wife is from Morocco. That's
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why I talk about Morocco once in a while. And, you know, she's we're going to probably get property
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in Morocco just to have it so she can we can go there and visit her family and stuff. But I think
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I kind of answered this in my head. But, you know, I'm thinking, you know, any assets because I think
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you have to have residency to have like any assets in Morocco, but I can just put it in her name.
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I'm thinking in that way, any assets we have there will just be in her name. And I don't
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know your residency there. Your lender, your bank and possibly even Henley and partners,
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if you're using them, will assist you with all of this. This is like this is their job to answer
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these. Oh, OK. Right. It'll be easy. OK. Yeah, it'll be easy. What do you say? What do you say?
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Don't don't. What do you say? Don't worry about everything. It's going to be fine. Yeah,
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it's all good. Everything's going to be. Your cosmic. Yes, sir. I have one question.
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Yeah. Is it true that the USA is heavily investing in Poland and we might see in the future a shift
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of power in Europe, like from the West to East, from the I. You know, I have no idea about foreign
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policy trade, trade routes and trade policy is one of the most difficult subjects. And I think
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it requires at least 30 years of extensive experience to even comment on this, because
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it is so fragmented and so difficult and half the time the public has no idea what's happening.
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So I just I feel uncomfortable commenting about that. OK, thank you. Yeah.
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And I just wanted to note that. Oh, sorry. You want to go? Yeah, I have I have one more small
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topic. And the reason why I forgot about it is because it's it's very easy. OK, this is regarding
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insurance. All right. You need to be overinsured as opposed to underinsured. OK, the the two for
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Americans, at least the two best insurance companies are anything through a Swiss company,
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ironically, called Chubb, C-H-U-B-B, or a spin off of Chubb called Pure P-U-R-E.
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There are independent brokers that you can contact and they will prepare you quotes and they will
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actually get you multiple quotes and you will you will need a barrage of insurance products. And so,
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you know, get ready to pay up. But it's definitely worth it after you reach about I think it's
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after 30 million. They will advise you get something called kidnapping and ransom insurance
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as well. And they can provide all this for those that are in Europe. For those that are in Europe,
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it's actually it's a little bit more difficult. Lloyd's of London does service the U.S. as well
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as Europe. The problem is they're extremely expensive, like they're prohibitively expensive.
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So, again, your attorneys and things will help you out with that. Your private client attorneys do
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have relationships with insurance companies. This is for insurance overall or? Every form of
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insurance. So anything, any asset that you have, you know, from from home to yourself, to umbrella
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policies to everything. You need to be overinsured compared to under. And because all of this stuff
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will be within the trust, it'll be fairly easy to handle. If anybody sues you, it's kind of like,
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yeah, you have this great insurance policy, but, you know, they might not even be able to tap into it.
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All right. Thanks for that. Just to note before we go ahead with Resolve there, you did mention
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that JP Morgan, you're with JP Morgan, the largest AOM bank in the U.S. and possibly if
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you're with Credit Suisse or UBS now, I believe. Yeah, yeah. Wait for the crash. And the largest
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AOM in Europe, I believe, as well. Or is that true or would it be Debit Suisse? I'm not really sure.
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No, no, no. It's UBS at this point. Or Deutsche Bank. Yes. So it is. No, Deutsche Bank. No, no,
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it'll be UBS at this point. By the way, there's this guy that I've had previous experience with.
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His name is Chris R. I think this guy is like... I don't know. How do I say it? Yeah.
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He's a shill, right? So we won't... Who cares? All right. Who's next? Resolve.
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Yo, thanks for bringing me up. I just want to say, man, I'm blown away. This is awesome. Thank you
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so much. I appreciate it. I came on to something a few days ago and I've been trying to validate it
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and get some more information about it. And I was hoping maybe you could tell me what your thoughts
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are, if you can. Basically, it's a series of videos that discusses land jurisdiction records
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and the claim that we were all forced out into a quote unquote foreign site of trust operating
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in the international jurisdiction of the sea and that we all need to come back as non-citizen
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nationals. And what... Is this all nonsense? It's bullshit. Don't... Okay, listen. No, no, no. It's
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okay. It's okay to ask these questions. I don't mean to disparage anybody. These are all valid
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questions. Here's the issue. Anything that touches, even touches sovereign citizenship,
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get rid of that shit. It doesn't work. It's a very weird interpretation of the law.
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And honestly, it's not going to... Okay. Yeah.
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Right. So yeah, that's why I was trying... I mean, I do have a little bit of a self...
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I pushed myself into the law a little bit so that I have some understanding of
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legalities of things and how the wordage varies. But this was just something that,
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with jurisdiction and what I understand about jurisdiction as well, it was like, oh my God,
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is this legit or what? So it was really intriguing to me, but it's good to hear your voice on that.
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And then one final thing, just quickly, you had mentioned yesterday something about
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making these statements of like, I'm not a financial advisor or whatever in your sense.
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It's pretty much nonsense because you're not getting compensation. Well, I was thinking about
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that and I'm like, all of a sudden now we're getting compensation from X for our contributions.
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Does that essentially turn us into a provider? No, because there's no explicit contract that
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states that you are... The reason why you're clicking follow on this person
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is to accept financial advice. So no, no, absolutely not.
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So as somebody who's just posting and then getting money, I didn't necessarily acknowledge
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myself as a provider that is getting money, therefore I'm not on the other side of the contract.
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No, I mean, I think there's a lot of qualifications. Technically, I am an RA,
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but I'm not giving any fee for service advice. So there's no consideration. So that's legally,
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that's called consideration, where there's basically a fee for service and there's an
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exchange of goods and services. And we're not doing any of that. So we're good to go.
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Oh, that's the phrase. Yeah, these things are just popping up. And so for a person that sets
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themselves up to be a provider as a subscriber, like I want to let people subscribe to me,
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therefore am I providing a service? No, you're fine.
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Right on. Cool, man. Thanks. I appreciate it. And again, thanks for letting me come out, man.
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No worries.
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Yeah, I have a question if that's all right. Of course.
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So it's a little more bigger macro, but if we're talking about trust and banks and all that kind
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of stuff and say there is a tremendous squeeze, would these banks... How would that affect
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in a way where there'd be bankruptcies of these banks?
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Yeah, many will go under. Many will go under and then you're going to have to have a bunch
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of the federal governments, depending on which country that they're in, to bail them out.
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Inevitably, a lot of these people will be bailed out. And it's going to be kind of a thing where,
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you know, all these regional banks were collapsing recently in America. They will all get...
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They'll all become a part of JPM essentially.
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That's what it seems like. Would that pretty much be the Moas money? Would it just be the
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Fed printing?
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A bunch of it. Yeah.
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All right.
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I mean, yes and no. I mean, there is... Indirectly, yes, is how I'll answer it.
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Because remember, they say that we have $4 quadrillion of derivative value. I think it's
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more like $10 to $15 at least. I mean, you guys, they're hiding the swaps. Like the CFTC is
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actively just... I mean, you can't possibly estimate the amount of value that has been
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imbued into the markets. So it's going to be a large play.
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Awesome. Thank you.
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Yo, go ahead, Chad or Rascal. I can't remember which one of you guys were first.
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Chad was first.
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Oh, what a Canadian thing to do.
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I am French Canadian. I haven't admitted that yet.
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Oh, bonjour. Comment ça va?
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Oh, no.
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Oh, you don't speak it? Okay.
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Yeah, I'm surrounded by...
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Okay. Hey, Chad here. I have a question for XYZ. So I want to give some of my money to
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some family members and stuff like that. What is the best way to do... Because I mean,
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obviously, I'm going to get taxed shit on all this. But what do you think is the best way?
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I'm sure there's lots of people in this situation that would want to give some...
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There are many ways you can go about it.
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What is the best way? Legally?
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There is a maximum gift limit that you can give that's tax free. But again,
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the one recommendation I would do, I would really follow is get these attorneys and a CPA first,
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and then just tell them what you want to do. And there are a number of ways they can go about it.
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They can even do it where there will be monthly distributions to them if that's how you want to
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do it. Just yeah, it's quite customizable. A lot of stuff you can do.
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01:18:40 - 01:18:46
Yo, Andar, I believe you're planning to set up your own animal sanctuary and
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01:18:47 - 01:18:49
some other thing I remember that was very...
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Pediatric hospice. Yeah.
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Nice. Do you plan to go about the same way?
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It will be through a 501c3 corporation. So that will require filing, I believe it's called a 1023.
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And then again, this is all US code, by the way. I apologize. I know we're a global group, but...
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Oh, yeah. When are we going to do the Canadian version of this?
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I have no comments on Canada.
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I guess it's the same kind of idea, I guess.
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01:19:24 - 01:19:31
With nonprofits that are 501c3s, you can donate a maximum, I believe, of 50% of your AGI,
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your adjusted gross income. Again, this is all US based. For family foundations, I think the limit
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is 30. There may be some exceptions. So again, your CPA will assist you with all this. There
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are plenty of ways to save money on tax. Don't sweat this. You're going to be fine.
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Yeah. I guess it was just the best way to set up any kind of foundation or charitable organization.
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Your attorney can easily set you up. Nonprofit law is a burgeoning industry,
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mainly because there's a lot of money laundering in it. But let's not comment on that.
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All right. Well, we'll ask about that part next time.
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All right. Any more questions? I saw somebody requested there and then
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dropped down. But please feel free to ask any questions.
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Betts, how are you doing for time? Are you all right?
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I'm okay. I can stick around for a little bit. Sure. Of course.
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Cool. Thank you so much, by the way, for sharing all this knowledge.
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No problem. Hopefully, some of this stuff helps. If it just guides you in the right direction,
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that's fine. Some of these attorneys are uncomfortable with dealing with foreign trusts.
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Just get a second opinion. I mean, I'm dealing from this from a criminal perspective.
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And remember, most of these trust attorneys, they deal with, well, generally honest clients.
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So sometimes it's difficult for them to see that foreign trusts do tend to supersede the protection
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that domestic ones do. By the way, I don't remember if I mentioned this,
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but again, if you're a foreign jurisdiction from the US, this is generally why many people from
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foreign jurisdictions will end up signing up for what is called a domestic asset protection trust.
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So basically, it's kind of ironic, but if you're outside of the US,
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you'll actually get more protections in the US than if you were in.
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All right. Go ahead, Rizal.
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I took my hand down, but let's see. Just really quick. I don't know if you want to touch this or
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not. I mean, I am an honest and law-abiding person, but I had some things from when I was
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younger that have impacted me financially. So like, I'm carrying this around with me.
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In all senses of the term, it's not fair to my family. So I've commingled assets and money
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in my account from other family members. But as far as the world is concerned, those are my assets.
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So when those assets balloon, for whatever reason, I want to be able to establish
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that those assets would come from different entities essentially into my account,
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which would essentially mean that I didn't designate myself as a manager or whatever.
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I don't know if there's any hope in establishing that distinction between the origin of the assets.
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No, there's really not. You'll probably end up going to jail, and I wish you well.
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No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Relax.
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That's already happened.
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Okay. Anyway, that's okay. No problem. What I would do is if you're going through this right now,
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I would try to get a local CPA right now and tell them exactly what you're doing.
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Because you need to take care of this ASAP. Because this is not legal, right?
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Yeah, it was essentially a car accident. And I was a teenager. They bent me over.
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Hey, hey, hey. Stop talking. I'm telling you. This can all be admissible. Okay?
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Shh. Quiet. You know what? Actually, this reminds me. Stop talking to cops. Okay?
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You know, every time we get depots, which are called depositions, right? Everybody squeals.
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I don't understand this. Okay? If any of you have wives or girlfriends or things of that nature,
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talk to them about how to concoct a story. I'm telling you. Okay? In the court of law,
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they will spin a story that is so unbelievable. I'll question my own data. But for some reason,
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men will just openly admit it. They're like, yeah, I killed him. Like, dude, hold on. They haven't
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even asked you if you killed the guy. Right? So you want to be incredibly careful with what you
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say. Right? And especially if this is recorded. Just please. You know, like, my advice basically,
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just to, you know, summarize, all this is like, shut up. Okay? Not specifically to you. I'm not
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trying to disparage you in any kind of way. No judgment. That's okay. Everybody goes through
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things. Oh. Oh, sorry. I was just adding someone there. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm not disparaged. I
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appreciate that. No, no, no, nothing. You need to, you need to have extended attorney-client
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privileges before you speak with your attorney. Your attorney will tell you everything.
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Don't make any media appearances. Don't make, don't do, you don't, you just shut up. I'm telling you,
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you're going to get away with it if you shut up.
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Yeah. Don't, don't. Okay. No, really. It's, this is like, I see this all the time. Okay. Stop
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self-snitching. I'm telling you. Why did you tell us that if you have an accomplice,
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if it's a woman, you're going to get, I don't know what you're talking about.
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I didn't say any of that. That's why I didn't record that.
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That was some statistic about getting, they will generally throw you under the bus.
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Like it's like 80%. It's some ridiculous statistic.
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Wow. All right. Yeah. Well, you know, the bras before, I guess so.
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Who had a question there? Rafink, how's it going?
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It's going good. First off, I just want to thank Mr. Z for taking the time to do this.
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Sure. I joined a little late, so I have two questions or two part questions.
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01:25:43 - 01:25:52
Over time, you'd been talking about Chambers.com being a good source to find legal help, etc.
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Can you give it like the first couple of steps? I guess my main question is you find a lawyer,
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what does that conversation sound like when you're talking to them?
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When you find the individual. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. No, no. That's your second part. Sorry.
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Yeah. And the second part was all of this information that you're giving us,
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what dollar amount of accumulation are we talking at? I mean, is it a million dollars?
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I would suggest after five to 10 million, you can start doing this.
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Okay. People have done it with less money, by the way. But this is just like a general,
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you're honest to God, once you sign up for banking, they're going to tell you to do this,
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like depending on your net asset value and your liquidity profile. To answer your first part,
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the conversation is really easy. You're going to tell them, you always be honest with your
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attorneys, okay? With your CPAs, with your attorneys, you can be honest with them. There
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01:26:50 - 01:26:55
are extended privileges between you two. Okay. Everything's okay. They have to act in your best
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01:26:55 - 01:27:01
interest. Okay. So you tell them, look, I want to set up a trust and estate plan.
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And I have this amount of liquidity available in these accounts. And could you help me out?
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And they will get to work. A lot of this stuff is templated. And then what they tend to do is
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they attach things for individuals because everybody's also unique, right? And so some
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01:27:18 - 01:27:22
people want to start a certain foundation. Some people might want to start XYZ, whatever it might
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01:27:22 - 01:27:28
be. But it's all kind of, you're really paying them a lot of money for a bunch of templates that
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01:27:28 - 01:27:39
they have. So hope that helps. Yeah. I appreciate the answer. Thanks. Of course.
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I got a dumb IRA question. I mean, most of it isn't in an IRA. Most of my shares are in a
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basic brokerage. Just like individual accounts? Yeah. Just an individual account. But I have some
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in an IRA account that I'm using some money that I'm going to roll over from an old 401k.
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So I got to cut. Should I put it in an IRA or should I just put it in and pay the
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fees and put it in an individual? Is it going to be more difficult if it's in an IRA account,
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put it in like a trust or anything like that? No, not at all. No.
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01:28:22 - 01:28:27
Okay. So I mean, it's like, that's fine. I can set that a little bit aside.
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So wait, wait, wait. I need to ask you a question. Hold on. So you're rolling over your 401k into an
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IRA, right? Yeah. It's from an old company. It's only like, you know, $1,400.
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No problem. Just make sure it's documented. Your brokerage is going to send you some documentation.
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Just give it to your CPA. They'll handle all of it. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Dr. Kass.
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01:28:53 - 01:28:57
Yeah. First of all, thanks, XYZ, for doing this. I really appreciate a lot of information.
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Second, what do you recommend about healthcare when it comes to getting private insurance versus
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insurance through a trust? For us, US-based people that have to pay for our own health insurance.
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No. So it'll be through private insurance. You'll have to basically sign up for whatever your state
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will allow you to sign up for. In general, what the wealthy tend to do is they'll have a concierge
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01:29:18 - 01:29:22
service instead. So it's called boutique medicine or concierge medicine. And they'll just come to
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your house or they'll do telemedicine. So you'll have an individual doctor. There are certain
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states that actually have programs with hospitals. So you pay them a flat monthly fee and you get VIP
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service. He currently has this. Yeah. Yes, I do. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. So hope that helps.
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01:29:46 - 01:29:51
Oh, can we talk about... Actually, I do have one section that I kind of left off, but I might as
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01:29:51 - 01:29:56
well talk about it because it'll take like two minutes. Let me pull up my... Give me a second.
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The more the merrier. Yeah. Give me one second.
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What are we going to do when you go dark? I mean, you'll have this recording. It'll be fine.
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Yes. This is all the information I have. So by the way, this is all accumulated over five years
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of constant mistakes. Right? And so that's why I'm like, listen, this is just... It's better to
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just tell you guys and you guys can just run with the information. Right. Okay. I want to talk to
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01:30:25 - 01:30:31
you guys about strategic... No, no, no. I don't offer any services. Okay. Strategic donations.
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01:30:31 - 01:30:36
Okay. I want to talk about this. It's called reciprocal altruism. Some of you might hate
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01:30:36 - 01:30:43
this concept. I don't care. You want to make recurring donations to your community. Okay.
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01:30:43 - 01:30:48
So what I like to do is I like to make it to my local police precinct, my local fire department,
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01:30:48 - 01:30:53
my local tier one hospital that isn't academically related because I don't want residents touching me,
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01:30:55 - 01:31:00
my local top university oncology facility that's closest to me, my local top cardiac facility
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01:31:00 - 01:31:05
that's closest to me, as well as if you have children, you want to donate to a top pediatric
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01:31:05 - 01:31:09
facility that's closest to you, as well as a highly ranked private school in your area. Okay.
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And then the last... The funniest thing is in this list that I wrote quickly,
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the last item is organizations that you actually care about. Okay. So these are the kinds of
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donations that you want to make. If you want to try to, I don't know, not escape the law or kind
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01:31:28 - 01:31:34
of evade the law, but you want very kind politicians, you want to start making political donations.
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01:31:34 - 01:31:38
Right. And then there are actually consulting companies that will help you out with this on
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01:31:38 - 01:31:43
which kind of strategic donations to make, so on and so forth. If you want to build a brand,
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01:31:43 - 01:31:50
you should hire one of the top four PR firms. There's a whole world out there, go and find it.
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01:31:52 - 01:31:55
I just want to get out a really high speeding tickets.
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So for example, in certain states, I will tell you just through what I know, in certain states,
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01:32:02 - 01:32:06
if you donate to your local police precinct, they'll actually give you a sticker or a card.
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01:32:07 - 01:32:10
Yeah. It tends to work. I don't know.
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01:32:10 - 01:32:12
It helps. It does help.
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01:32:13 - 01:32:13
Sometimes.
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01:32:13 - 01:32:18
But I would never put decals on your car because people are psycho.
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01:32:18 - 01:32:20
Yeah, I mean, I can't do that.
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01:32:20 - 01:32:25
And they will... My favorite decals on cars that I see are the ones with like,
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01:32:25 - 01:32:29
you know, Zig Zawa or like Glock or something. I'm like, dude.
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01:32:30 - 01:32:32
Yeah. You're just advertising.
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01:32:32 - 01:32:34
You're like, hey, come take my gun. What's wrong with you?
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01:32:34 - 01:32:35
Seriously. Oh my God.
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01:32:35 - 01:32:36
You loser.
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01:32:38 - 01:32:41
Which you think a lot alike in some ways. It's funny.
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01:32:41 - 01:32:42
Absolutely.
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01:32:43 - 01:32:47
So these are the kinds of donations I would make. I would set this up through,
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01:32:47 - 01:32:50
you know, there's a lot more freedom if you set this up through a family foundation than a DAF.
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01:32:51 - 01:32:54
But there are many ways of going about this. So I wish you well.
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Okay. Can you run through some of the, I guess, speculated benefits of those donations?
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Sure.
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01:33:01 - 01:33:03
Your local precinct, your local...
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So your local precinct, the way that it works is once you make a donation there,
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01:33:07 - 01:33:13
I have some friends who've done this and the county that I'm in, they don't give a shit.
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01:33:13 - 01:33:18
So I stopped donating to them. But certain counties, what they'll do is they'll give
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01:33:18 - 01:33:23
you a private number where you can just call, you know, an individual number and they'll come
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01:33:23 - 01:33:27
to your house. Like in the state that I am, the police will just never come to your place.
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01:33:28 - 01:33:32
So it's gotten rather impossible. But in, you know, in other places,
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01:33:32 - 01:33:35
they'll give you a special number and you'll call them.
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01:33:35 - 01:33:40
An off-duty cop will come up to your, you know, your dwelling and be like,
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01:33:40 - 01:33:46
Hey, what's going on? You may also get special treatment with the law.
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01:33:46 - 01:33:50
So in case if you get caught with, you know, self-defense charge or whatever it may be,
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01:33:50 - 01:33:55
they'll let you go. You know, I've heard various stories of them,
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01:33:56 - 01:34:02
of them intentionally dropping the ball. So they're not following proper procedures on purpose.
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01:34:03 - 01:34:05
So that they'll let you go on, you know, they can let you go.
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01:34:06 - 01:34:10
Your fire department, if you donate to them, they may show up to your house first.
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01:34:12 - 01:34:14
You know, if you have any problems, they'll give you a private line.
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01:34:14 - 01:34:18
Your insurance company will also help you out with this, by the way. So like Chubb and Pure
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01:34:18 - 01:34:22
will have private firefighters that will arrive to your place.
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01:34:22 - 01:34:27
So you're just kind of covered all over. Your hospital, they'll treat you like a VIP.
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01:34:28 - 01:34:31
Oncology and cardiac, the reason why I recommend those is because we're all either
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dying of cancer or a heart attack. Okay. So, you know, donate to those units.
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And make sure that they know who you are, right. So make sure that they know that you're affiliated
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01:34:44 - 01:34:49
with XYZ foundation or, you know, whatever it's named. And then for children,
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01:34:49 - 01:34:52
You'd be donating from a foundation?
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01:34:52 - 01:34:56
Absolutely. You need to donate from a foundation. Absolutely. So the way that it works is you,
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as you know, the individual will allocate part of your cash flow that you've made throughout the
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01:35:03 - 01:35:08
year. You're basically your AGI. You'll donate a part of it to your family foundation. Okay.
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01:35:08 - 01:35:14
And this will all be again, managed via your CPA. And then from there, you can donate it into
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basically whatever you want. I mean, family foundations are extremely unregulated. Okay.
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01:35:20 - 01:35:29
Which I like. So, and then for children, of course, pediatric facilities help as well as a,
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01:35:29 - 01:35:34
you know, I mean, I advocate for private schooling because the public schooling
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01:35:34 - 01:35:41
system sucks. No, it's turning into a free for all. It's kind of a zoo at this point. And so,
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01:35:43 - 01:35:48
you know, but, you know, to each his own. And then organizations and causes you care about,
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01:35:48 - 01:35:52
that's fine too. Local colleges that you want your kid to get into. You can also
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01:35:52 - 01:35:57
donate to them as well. Once they're, you know, 16, maybe you can start, you can make them a call.
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You can always talk to every one of these facilities, by the way, they all have a donor
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01:36:02 - 01:36:07
relations team. So you can write that down donor relations. You call them up and you tell them,
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01:36:07 - 01:36:13
listen, I want to establish a recurring donation with you guys. One time donations are cool
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01:36:14 - 01:36:17
and they like it, but they tend to prefer recurring from just my experience.
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01:36:18 - 01:36:24
That's so interesting. I really appreciate your answer on that. We got Cosmin and then Maz.
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01:36:25 - 01:36:33
Yes, sir. I would like to thank you for everything. And I'm certain that after this is over,
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01:36:33 - 01:36:38
I'll probably never hear from you. So again, I would like to thank you for everything. You,
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01:36:38 - 01:36:44
at least me, you helped me a lot with all this information and now I have to head out. So
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01:36:44 - 01:36:49
everyone. Hey, no problem, man. Thank you. Thank you so much. You asked great questions. So,
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01:36:49 - 01:36:53
so I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm still quite young and I'm still learning and I'm still
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01:36:53 - 01:36:57
trying to be. Don't worry about it. We're all, we're all trying to make it. I understand. Yeah.
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01:36:57 - 01:37:01
I'm trying to be around people like you, you know, so thank you. I'll have to head out.
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01:37:01 - 01:37:08
Have a nice one. Okay. All right. Thanks. Take care. Bye. All right. What's up Maz?
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01:37:09 - 01:37:14
Hey, what up, professor XYZ? I just want to say thanks for everything and all the intel.
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01:37:15 - 01:37:19
No. What would you suggest for like relocation services for someone who's like slightly,
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01:37:19 - 01:37:24
you know, who can't really like manage to get a lot of stuff? Say I do relocate and get land
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01:37:24 - 01:37:28
somewhere like in the States or whatever. What would you suggest for a lot rather than like,
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01:37:28 - 01:37:32
you know, some ordinary like U-Haul, do you know like professional like services that can like put
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01:37:32 - 01:37:37
everything in like a truck or like get stuff like delivered in like a more of a practical manner?
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01:37:38 - 01:37:44
That's a, that's a fantastic question. I have no idea. I'm sorry.
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01:37:46 - 01:37:48
You stumped me. I'm telling you, I have no clue.
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01:37:50 - 01:37:54
If this happens, like, you know, and like, like everybody like moves out and gets like relocates,
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01:37:54 - 01:37:58
like, do you know of any like things that can like, you know, movers or something like that,
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01:37:58 - 01:38:02
that like, you know, professionals or someone like, you know, in that, like in our tax brackets,
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that can like, you know, get stuff professionally done and moved.
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01:38:05 - 01:38:12
You can try this company called the Nines. Okay. It's called the space Nines. N-I-N-E-S.
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01:38:13 - 01:38:18
They may be able to help you out there. They mostly do domestic staffing. And, you know,
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01:38:18 - 01:38:24
I intentionally didn't talk about like all the vanity stuff that you can do because, you know,
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01:38:25 - 01:38:30
you might end up spending too much, but there's a company called the Nines that that's pretty good.
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There's another concierge service called quintessentially. It's just spelled like the word.
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They're like, okay, I don't know. I have problems with the way that they email me sometimes.
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01:38:42 - 01:38:45
They'll like email me random persons. They'll like respond to somebody's email
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01:38:46 - 01:38:50
that I'm not even a part of. And they'll basically dock their own clients.
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01:38:52 - 01:38:57
I mean, I know that sounds horrendous, but yeah, I mean, I don't know. The problem is there's not
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01:38:57 - 01:39:02
these kinds of services like suck nowadays. They used to be really good 20 years ago. And they're
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01:39:02 - 01:39:06
just like, they're really shit at this point. So like, I don't have a personal assistant. I don't
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01:39:06 - 01:39:09
have any executive assistants. I just handle everything from a couple apps.
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01:39:11 - 01:39:14
Gotcha. No, I appreciate it. No, that was just something that crossed my mind. Like when it
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01:39:14 - 01:39:17
came to like, you know, free, I'll do get somewhere and go somewhere.
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01:39:17 - 01:39:21
No, that's a great question. Hey, man, you've stumped me.
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01:39:21 - 01:39:27
You've stumped me. No, no, I didn't mean to something more than helpful. But no, that's
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01:39:27 - 01:39:31
all I have. And I just really like really appreciate everything. You seem real genuine.
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01:39:31 - 01:39:33
I just want to thank you, man. No worries, man. I appreciate it.
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01:39:33 - 01:39:36
No worries, man. I appreciate it. All right, cool. Floor can be forever.
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01:39:38 - 01:39:40
All right, DaBaby, let's go. What's up?
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01:39:41 - 01:39:49
So I also wanted to give my two cents on PostMoAs asset management. So
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01:39:49 - 01:39:54
my my full fledged portfolio will look like Ligma,
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01:39:55 - 01:40:03
loop ring, immutable X, GameStop, Microsoft, Apple, Bitcoin and ETH. That's it. Seven,
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01:40:03 - 01:40:11
seven assets and then also land. But the big curious thing is you're aware of donor advised
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01:40:12 - 01:40:22
funds, right? XYZ. So is there anybody that's qualified to. So like if I'm able to you say I
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01:40:22 - 01:40:32
make a bill off GameStop. Which could be a pretty big possibility if we all hold for a long, long
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01:40:32 - 01:40:40
time. So 200 million would go to taxes. 300 million would go to taxes. How do I guarantee that?
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01:40:41 - 01:40:47
Government does not get a fucking cent and we can form a Dow's through self-directed
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01:40:48 - 01:40:55
donor advised funds because I want to deploy smart contracts, say for food banks.
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01:40:57 - 01:41:05
And want to pay everybody in loops or say, you know, a big project of mine would be let's bring
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01:41:06 - 01:41:13
manufacturing back to America. Yet, you know, we can use Mexico as a huge training partner.
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01:41:15 - 01:41:19
You know, pay them all in loops, you know, like pay them all a thriving wage.
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01:41:21 - 01:41:28
That'll be a great way to onboard tens of millions of people. We I think we can do it.
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01:41:29 - 01:41:36
We have 500,000 subject matter experts in their own field all over the world. But how would you
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01:41:36 - 01:41:44
go about setting up a donor advised funds for a Dow and not letting the government have a fucking
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01:41:44 - 01:41:51
cent of it? So I likely wouldn't do it via a debt. But the first thing, again, I would do is I would
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01:41:51 - 01:41:55
hire one of those private client attorneys and tell them what you exactly want to do.
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01:41:55 - 01:41:59
Because the things that you want to do are immensely complex and it's going to likely
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01:41:59 - 01:42:08
require you to form a corporation. So like an LLC? An LLC possibly taxed as a C corp. Yeah.
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01:42:08 - 01:42:13
Gotcha. And I was thinking like if, you know, someone not qualified are able to do that,
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01:42:14 - 01:42:24
not that incense, but if I wanted to like, you know, put 5% of my capital gains taxes that
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01:42:24 - 01:42:29
would, you know, instead of going to the government, it can go into like maybe one to 5%.
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01:42:29 - 01:42:36
But Fidelity, they have their own crypto donor advised fund. So I, you know, I hate to say it
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01:42:36 - 01:42:43
like if I really have to, I can put some of it like one to 5% of what I originally was going to
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01:42:43 - 01:42:49
pay the taxes in a Fidelity donor advised fund in Bitcoin or Ethereum. You know, when Bitcoin's
1:42:49,320 --> 1:42:53,720
01:42:49 - 01:42:53
out, like, you know, I think it's going to go to 4,000 a coin. So it's, I'm going to be able to
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01:42:53 - 01:43:00
ride that wave up and we'll be able to give so much to charity. So like that could be a custodian,
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01:43:00 - 01:43:06
like a, like a faster or a fast track way of getting, yeah, they'll be able to do that too.
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01:43:06 - 01:43:12
You can call Fidelity brokerages, Fidelity brokerage, tell them what you want to do.
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01:43:12 - 01:43:17
And then they can set something up. So instead of paying your taxes, you can,
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01:43:17 - 01:43:27
you know, really gift all of it. Is that what? No. Well, it's complicated. Guys, just you should
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01:43:27 - 01:43:32
really use a CPA. I'm just going to word it at that. There's really only a max AGI that you can
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01:43:32 - 01:43:41
donate. Yeah. I'm sure there's caps. Yeah. It basically ranges from 30 to 50%. There have been
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01:43:41 - 01:43:47
some exceptions recently, but it's again, that's why you have a CPA. Yeah. But if you can get it
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01:43:47 - 01:43:53
down to, I mean, if you get down to 15%, you know, and just gift away, that'd be nice.
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01:43:54 - 01:43:58
And then of course, from your future assets, you use the buy, borrow, die principles. So you
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01:43:58 - 01:44:01
basically, you buy broad market mutual funds or whatever portfolio that you want to arrange.
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01:44:02 - 01:44:08
And then you borrow from that using pledged asset lines or secured back security back loans. That's
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01:44:08 - 01:44:12
through your bank. They will charge you a nominal interest rate. And then subsequently,
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01:44:14 - 01:44:20
you do what is known as a step up in cost basis when you do the estate transfer. So essentially,
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01:44:20 - 01:44:24
you'll never pay your loan back, which is the best. I mean, that's, it's like the best thing
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01:44:24 - 01:44:32
in the world. I mean, X, Y, Z, like for me, like I was just thinking like doing that same thing,
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01:44:32 - 01:44:38
but like never use my computer share as any collateral. Like I'll just have 10 million
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01:44:38 - 01:44:45
infidelity in like Apple and Microsoft, buy it at the low and just ride that. I will not, you know,
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01:44:48 - 01:44:00
it will likely be, I wouldn't use fidelity for, for secure back loans. I would use your bank's
1:44 --> 1:44:58,760
01:44:00 - 01:44:58
brokerage. They will give you way better rate than fidelity. Fidelity, you'll have like 10
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01:44:58 - 01:45:02
million infidelity. They'll be like, Oh, it's still 9%. You wouldn't catch me paying 9% on that.
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01:45:03 - 01:45:08
Anyway. Oh, hell no. I just want to add as well, in terms of exchange rates,
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01:45:08 - 01:45:14
using your broker to exchange your, your cash, like, can we, okay. Yeah. Sorry. I just think
1:45:14,120 --> 1:45:19,720
01:45:14 - 01:45:19
that's a great, you get a much better, well, if you're using IBK or particularly you're getting
1:45:19,720 --> 1:45:25,800
01:45:19 - 01:45:25
a much better exchange rate. So before you guys just dump it out into your local bank account,
1:45:26,520 --> 1:45:29,560
01:45:26 - 01:45:29
you know, speaking of where somebody was talking about real estate and land, I just want to talk
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01:45:29 - 01:45:32
about that really quickly. It'll take, you know, 30 seconds. Yeah. I was going to suggest
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01:45:32 - 01:45:40
a tech. If anybody is interested in real estate and land. Okay. Let's talk about corporate real
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01:45:40 - 01:45:44
estate first because, you know, residential real estate is different. Everybody has their own
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01:45:44 - 01:45:00
preferences. They can do whatever they want. That's okay. I've already talked to you about
1:45 --> 1:45:52,520
01:45:00 - 01:45:52
different trust structures that you can implement to protect your assets and so on. So, you know,
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01:45:52 - 01:45:59
you guys are good to go. I want to know what's up. I want a mountain. You want a mountain or a
1:45:59,960 --> 1:46:06,200
01:45:59 - 01:46:06
valley? Let's say a valley. Yeah. So, so, so, you know, I'll talk about, I'll start with land first
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01:46:06 - 01:46:00
because it's easy land, unless if you're doing rezoning or development upon this land, there's
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01:46:00 - 01:46:18
no cashflow. You cannot collateralize it for cash. Try to go to a private lender or bank. They're not
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01:46:18 - 01:46:24
going to give you anything. I assure you, most ranch hands and farmland owners that are generational
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01:46:24 - 01:46:29
owners of this land, they want to sell the land because they have no liquidity. Unfortunately,
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01:46:29 - 01:46:37
with a lot of these investments, there's a gigantic issue with this notion of, you know,
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01:46:37 - 01:46:43
being house rich versus cash poor. And most of these people, I'm telling you, once you do these
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01:46:43 - 01:46:50
asset polls, you're going to see they're cash poor. So, you know, and in terms of corporate
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01:46:50 - 01:46:55
real estate investing, I would hire an excellent corporate broker. Don't hire your friend that like
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01:46:56 - 01:47:00
sells track homes once every month or, you know, whatever it may be. Just hire some,
1:47:00,280 --> 1:47:06,440
01:47:00 - 01:47:06
you need to hire demand experts. I promise you, if they charge more, you also probably likely need to
1:47:06,440 --> 1:47:11,400
01:47:06 - 01:47:11
hire a real estate attorney. Your private client attorney will advise you on this. It's not a
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01:47:11 - 01:47:17
problem. Again, it's easily doable. And they will help you navigate these contracts. These
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01:47:17 - 01:47:22
corporate contracts are very difficult to read. Real estate law in and of itself, I mean, we've
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01:47:22 - 01:47:26
been dealing with it with Bed Bath & Beyond, remember, with all the leases? It's immensely
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01:47:26 - 01:47:33
complex. And so I urge you to hire the experts. They will guide you through it. I would refrain
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01:47:33 - 01:47:00
from corporate office space and from anything retail related. This market is basically going
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01:47:00 - 01:47:46
to be dead for the next, I don't know, five to 10 years. Most of the investors, remember,
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01:47:46 - 01:47:51
the majority of the investors that are investing in real estate right now are doing what is called
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01:47:51 - 01:47:57
a 1031 or a reverse 1031 exchange. What that means is they've already been investing in real estate
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01:47:57 - 01:48:02
and they want to avoid capital gains tax. Therefore, they transfer the profits that they
1:48:02,280 --> 1:48:08,520
01:48:02 - 01:48:08
make from the units that they've just sold and they transfer it onto their next property. Okay.
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01:48:08 - 01:48:00
So, these are not like novel real estate investors. This is all, you know, these people
1:48 --> 1:48:24,200
01:48:00 - 01:48:24
are well established. And so I would kind of hold up a little bit until the corporate mortgage-backed
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01:48:24 - 01:48:31
securities rate, the default rate goes above 8%. Right now, I think we looked it up like yesterday
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01:48:31 - 01:48:37
or the day before and it was at 3.5, maybe 4%. It's easily going to shoot up. Remember, in cities,
1:48:38,600 --> 1:48:46,680
01:48:38 - 01:48:46
these kind of mixed use office spaces, there's anywhere from 30% to 60% vacancy. Right? This is
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01:48:46 - 01:48:54
not good. So, I urge you to be careful. The time-tested ones tend to be warehouses as well
1:48:54,840 --> 1:48:59,560
01:48:54 - 01:48:59
as things like Lowe's, Home Depot, grocery stores are good. As long as there's no gym connected,
1:48:59,560 --> 1:49:04,360
01:48:59 - 01:49:04
there tend to be a lot of homeless people running around in the gym. But these things,
1:49:04,360 --> 1:49:07,800
01:49:04 - 01:49:07
you'll just build through experience and you're going to make a lot of mistakes. It's okay.
1:49:08,520 --> 1:49:14,120
01:49:08 - 01:49:14
Everybody goes through it. And then there was something else that I wanted to talk about.
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01:49:14 - 01:49:17
I completely forgot. It's actually quite important. Uh-oh.
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01:49:19 - 01:49:21
It may be real estate.
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01:49:21 - 01:49:28
It'll come to you. Land and real estate. And you were talking about buying sort of-
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01:49:28 - 01:49:30
It's probably not a big deal. It'll be fine.
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01:49:30 - 01:49:32
Yeah. You were talking about the triple X or-
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Oh, sorry. So, there are triple net properties. Oh, that's right. I wanted to talk about cap rates.
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There's something called capitalization rate. You want to make sure your cap rate is above
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your mortgage interest. Okay? So, look up the cap rate equation.
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You can look for properties on a website that I recommend that everybody uses called LoopNet.
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It has nothing to do with loop ring. It's called LoopNet. This is the gold standard for looking up
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corporate real estate. And the cap rates, generally for triple net properties- Triple
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net properties, by the way, are properties that you basically don't take care of. You're just
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the landlord. The tenant will take care of everything. Sometimes there are roof covenants
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and things. But again, that's what you have attorneys and your broker for and so on. They'll
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warn you about all the pitfalls. So, you can engage with this as long as you get a good
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corporate loan rate, which by the way, right now, the rates are insane. It's very difficult to try
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to buy these types of assets. Actually, yeah, that was the most important part. Thank you. Thank you,
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01:50:38 - 01:50:44
Sirius. I appreciate it. Cool. Just before we get to the baby and office estate, I just wanted to
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ask about when we finally come around to buying our real estate, do you recommend buying with
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a mortgage or on loan or buying straight out, depending on the economic scenario? It'll be
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01:50:57 - 01:51:02
depending on your bank setup, the way that your trust is set up. Your attorney will advise you
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on how to purchase it. Loans for people with liquidity are readily available. So, this isn't
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the standard. So, in the US, they look at two years of your W-2. They come up with the debt
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01:51:13 - 01:51:24
to income ratio. They'll give you basically one third of your gross income per year as the maximum
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01:51:26 - 01:51:31
monthly payment that you can make and they will extrapolate it from that. Lenders have become
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01:51:31 - 01:51:39
very salty recently because they've kind of been over lending at this point. But these problems
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will not apply to you guys. All right. Cheers for that. So, we got the baby and then the office
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01:51:46 - 01:51:52
estate. Great. Let me just chew my food real quick. Just took a bite of my pizza. One second.
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01:51:54 - 01:52:02
Do you advise on pizza? What's your favorite pizza is? XYZ? Yeah. Hawaiian. Oh, stop. Really?
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Hawaiian pizza? I love Hawaiian pizza. I mean, I like pineapple. I love the pineapple. I love
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01:52:09 - 01:52:12
pineapple on pizza. What are you going to do about it? I do like pineapple. Yeah,
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01:52:12 - 01:52:18
with bacon, it's pretty good. Oh, it's awesome. But from where though? From what state?
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01:52:19 - 01:52:22
Little Caesars. Hands down. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
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From what state? I don't know. I mean, I go to Chicago a lot.
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You used to live in New York, didn't you? Do you like pizza in California or?
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No, no, no. New York pizza. The problem is New York pizza is honestly very hit or miss.
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01:52:42 - 01:52:48
Yeah, it can be. You got to know the goods fast. California pizza, there's rarely any good pizza
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01:52:48 - 01:52:55
around, but the ones are well known. I find it easier to get to those compared to New York pizza.
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01:52:55 - 01:52:59
Every single pizza place is named the same thing. Yeah, I know. And they all look the same. They're
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all next to a subway. I don't want to go there. It's all just Dunkin' Donuts and pizza places.
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01:53:05 - 01:53:14
Okay, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, on a more serious note. So I was thinking about different events
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that would like, I want to kind of identify like failures and their effects on wider market
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01:53:22 - 01:53:29
liquidity. Like, let's say like when Fedwire went down, right? So I saw this. I think I may
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01:53:29 - 01:53:40
have spoke to this a few months ago about when HSBC and Wells Fargo were issued money market
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01:53:40 - 01:53:48
failure reports with the DTCC. So I thought like, you know, multiple things failed to deliver.
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If it's happened, like that, maybe they just didn't get it submitted to SWIFT for the next day cut off.
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But we know that the DTCC did 100% haircut with all these dogshit securities like, you know,
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CNBS, MBS, whatever, you know, everything is like nothing is accepted as collateral except for
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01:54:09 - 01:54:18
pristine US securities, or bond, treasury bonds. But you spoke of municipal bonds or
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something of that sort. So I was saying, I was thinking in my head, like,
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there are tri-party custodial agreements, say with I was I like to focus on BNY Mellon and
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State Street. So the one of the black holes is the cashing in a BNY Mellon and State Street collateral
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if I'm talking Wells Fargo if they collapse, because they have billions of these municipal
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deposits in excess of FDIC coverage. So if BNY Mellon and State Street have to dump their
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MBS, CNBS and their municipal shit to satisfy their tri-party agreements, with the Wells,
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I mean, Wells Fargo depositees, the debt market implodes. But then they'll have to sell those
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specific bonds pledged as collateral for the deposits with tri-party agreements in place.
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So that's kind of like the fire aspect of all this supply, you know, supply coming in the market with
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no absolute no demand. So it just keep going to keep getting bidded lower and lower. But I think
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they're about to State Street BNY are about to cash in their collateral. But Wells Fargo has a
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shit ton of municipal bonds that don't qualify as collateral. But what like I know this does not
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01:55:38 - 01:55:46
this this this this these market events or not market events, but these cascading failures are
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different in the euro dollar system because everyone takes whatever collateral in the euro
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dollar system. But in the US markets, why why aren't we seeing massive failures in these big
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banks if they're all holding since, man, I was convinced after the DTC haircut that we would see
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01:56:05 - 01:56:10
firms getting denied collateral in repo markets? Is it just a fucking Fed? Just it's just the
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01:56:11 - 01:56:17
literally propping up all these banks, because in a normal system, everyone would get fucking
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01:56:17 - 01:56:23
Thanos slap snapped. And like I'm thinking like BNY Mellon's like positioning themselves to take out.
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01:56:24 - 01:56:28
You know, to two people in their triparty agreements, because if State Street's holding
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custodial custodian of XRT XRT, it could be bring down the whole fucking market if, you know,
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01:56:36 - 01:56:44
if, you know, the whole market's using that XRT ETF as synthetic share creation, and that presents
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01:56:44 - 01:56:50
counterparty risk for every single ETF that it's just going to daisy chain from State Street to
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Schwab to Vanguard ETFs and just take everyone down with them. So I'm kind of confused, like,
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why? I don't know. I guess I guess everyone's at the Fed's mercy. But these institutions are
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trying to position themselves like, oh, you're not holding the bag. It's been it's been passed
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01:57:08 - 01:57:13
around. And it's a massive game of hot potato. And the Fed's stopping all of it. And then
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eventually will come to crash. So that's that's exactly what I put something in the nest,
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01:57:18 - 01:57:24
a few things from finance Lance a lot, which I'm like, you know, doom and gloom porn, let's fucking
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01:57:24 - 01:57:38
go. Sure. Rascal, I love your bio, dude. Love it. All right, go ahead. Alpha state. And then we got
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rascal. Yeah, I think it was Jowell, right?
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01:57:42 - 01:57:44
Oh, somebody else? Did I miss somebody?
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Jowell had their name of hand up for a while.
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Oh, I think that was that might have been mine. I had a name change. Just so yeah, for consistency.
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Oh, oh, gotcha. So this might be kind of an obtuse question. And you might, you know,
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might be dedicated to something else. But how do you see the CBDCs playing in during like CMOS
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events? So likely what's going to happen is, is this will give them the perfect excuse to
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this will give them the perfect excuse. Once there's a macro crash happening, after kind of
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01:58:15 - 01:58:20
the dust settles, they can say, Hey, wait a minute. I have an idea. We're going to introduce central
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01:58:20 - 01:58:26
bank digital currencies. So that's probably what's going to happen. There are already pilot
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01:58:26 - 01:58:32
programs taking place. Several countries have already started them. Just again, they're in
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01:58:32 - 01:58:36
the pilot phase right now. But I can tell you for a fact that the US is actively developing them.
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01:58:36 - 01:58:41
I want to pose this question on top of jowls. Sorry, sorry, interrupt. But do you guys think
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01:58:41 - 01:58:47
there will be a way that they'll peg like they'll give other countries favorable pegs to the US
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01:58:47 - 01:58:53
CBDC. And also, instead of forcing us to use cash, not to use cash, they're gonna be like,
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01:58:53 - 01:59:00
is one CB. One CBDC is going to be worth 90 cents on the dollar than 80 cents or whatever. Or do
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01:59:00 - 01:59:06
you guys think it would just be like, a multiple insolvencies that we're like, I think we're like
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01:59:06 - 01:59:14
12 months behind the UK is in their systematic, systematic implosion of their small business
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01:59:14 - 01:59:19
sector in terms of bankruptcies, but to introduce their CBDC or manufacturer consent for it, but
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01:59:22 - 01:59:27
yeah, no, that was actually a good question. I think the follow up, you know, I guess the
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01:59:27 - 01:59:30
biggest gray area that haven't you might be able to piece together by the questions
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01:59:30 - 01:59:36
I'm asking, and it's probably just, you know, too much of the unknown. But I have a hard time
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01:59:36 - 01:59:41
visualizing how even the regulatory agencies are going to respond to all this and say the market
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01:59:41 - 01:59:46
becomes completely illiquid, and we get bankruptcies. Like, you know, I guess it can go
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01:59:46 - 01:59:53
any which way. But I'm just curious. Yeah, it'll be it will be reactionary, and they'll be too late.
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01:59:53 - 01:59:57
This is what happens every single time. They'll react and they'll go, Oh, no, what happened?
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01:59:58 - 02:00:00
And then they'll deny and they'll say, we had no idea.
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And then they'll have a knee jerk reaction to it, of course. And so yeah, I mean, prepare for it's
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going to be like, several years of, you know, trying to edit the markets.
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02:00:15 - 02:00:16
Gotcha. Thank you very much, man.
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Yeah, of course. Okay, I got I got time for I don't know, maybe two more.
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I was just gonna say real quick, you know, I heard all right, you know, it's gonna topple these,
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02:00:28 - 02:00:34
these banks down. And I heard Schwab and I have a TD Ameritrade account. So should I be
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trying to get out of that TD Ameritrade? Because no, yes. Okay.
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Let me tell you why, in my opinion. So the same securities that took down SVB are the same ones
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that Schwab holds at. So Schwab in March 2023, they're down 171% on their whole to mature security
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position. And that was three or four rate hikes ago. So I actually have a list. These are the
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same securities that took down other other banks and brokerages. But the aspect with Schwab is 95%
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of all retail orders go to the dark pools. So these market makers are actually posing the
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biggest risk to every single broker on the market, because they never delivered anything. So when
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people go to the exits, Schwab will not have cash on hand to backstop all this deposit loss,
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because in banks, yeah, so I, I, I extreme, like I'm like 100% believe that there will be a few,
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a few brokerages that survive, which should be Fidelity, Vanguard.
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So I'll probably switch over to Fidelity.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to kind of, you know, have some in one brokerage and some in another, but you know,
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I might just put it all in Fidelity.
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What I will say is regardless of the percentage, most of these, most of the largest brokerages
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02:02:04 - 02:02:08
are going to get backstop regardless, as long as you don't have CFDs in your account,
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like with regards to the shares, we can't really tell which one is actually going to crash. These
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02:02:14 - 02:02:18
meetings are all going to be closed door and we'll have no idea what they're going to do.
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Yeah. But also like what I do, Rascal is I'm 100% DRS. So like there's no, there's no risk that
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computer shareholds. So that's why they don't have FDIC insurance because you know, and what I
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really think, okay. That's true too. So if I DRS the ones I have with that, it should be fine.
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Yeah. That's why I'm like not sweating at all. I'm like, like I'm always amped all the fucking
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02:02:45 - 02:02:51
time because like I hold no risk. Like I don't like, I just, all I have is a GameStop and you
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know, that's all I'll ever need. But I do think brokerages, if, if they survive, in my opinion,
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they'll just pay out like 300% like in a Moaz scenario. I don't, yeah. I personally don't,
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do not take any chances. That's why I hold nothing in brokers. Just maybe from time to time when I'm
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about to DRS it, but that's it. That's like the only extent I'll send you that picture about the
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top, top hundred institutions with their hold to mature securities.
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Right on. Yeah. Yeah. XYZ. I just got one question. We can, we can wrap it up. So
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we were talking earlier about like, you know, I was joking about getting a serious blue Lambo
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02:03:36 - 02:03:41
and speeding it all the way to the next series shareholder meeting. But you did mention
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something interesting and I actually do believe in. Well, you have to have a company to have a
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02:03:45 - 02:03:52
shareholder meeting, right? Hey, we're right out of the chapter 11, but I'll tell you. So yeah,
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I do agree with what you, what you said about it, which is that, you know, money talks and wealth
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whispers and you know, you've seen and dealt with a lot of wealthy people and maybe just if you get
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02:04:03 - 02:04:09
you to tie the bow there in terms of how to carry your wealth, you know, how to operate in the world
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02:04:09 - 02:04:14
in a way that doesn't make you, I guess, a target, you know, or, you know, flaunt, flaunting your
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02:04:14 - 02:04:21
wealth. I mean, you know, you know, don't dress in Gucci suits and all that. You get what I mean?
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I mean, it's relatively easy. It's, it's, you don't, like if I'm walking down the street and so
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on, nobody, nobody can tell. I'm in like a hoodie. I mean, it's, it's, it's very easy. Also most of my
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clothes look like I'm a fed, so it tends to help. So in my opinion, I will look, I think having a
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night, like we're in, in the worst depression, deflationary depression of our lifetime,
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having a nice car or whatever, like people are just going to assume, Oh, that's from GameStop or
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02:04:56 - 02:05:02
like, like they're your, your, your family or targets that I told my whole fucking family
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02:05:03 - 02:05:09
and my, my cousins who are apes, like, we're not fucking buying any nice cars, dude. Anybody can
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follow them home. Anybody can break into their home, kidnap them. 70% of all lottery winners
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are bankrupt in five years of countless of them have died. Like I'm not fucking playing.
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Like, I, it sounds aggressive. I, but like, that's, that's my, that's my strategy. Plus people are
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going to be really, really hurting, you know, and we don't want to give, we don't want to put any of
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our closest friends and family in danger. Plus it's going to be a game to me and my apes, like,
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Oh, how much can we hide from, you know, like we'll have, we'll be trans being transported in
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HVAC cars. You know, no, no, no one's going to fucking notice like nothing boring ass people.
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I do. I see.
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One thing I will tell you is when it comes to, um, the, what the wealthiest own in terms of
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vehicles, they're not G wagons. You understand they own Toyotas. So, you know, these kinds of
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things, you gotta, you gotta be subtle about it. Speaking as a poor guy, the last thing I want to
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is somebody like rubbing their wealth in your face. You just want to punch him in the face.
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You know what I mean? Like it's not cool. It's not cool. It's like, no, no, no, no,
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I'm poor. I know exactly how it feels when rich people rubbed there's wealth in your face. I was,
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yeah. Not cool. Started from zero. It sucked. Yeah. It's it's poverty is like an endless
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micro. And you're not kid. Just, I was like, I got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Well,
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Hey Donald, have you, uh, invested in Jimmy? All right. All right. I got to go. I got to get out
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I don't even remember anymore. It was, I was just trying to buy a lot of people at one point in time
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or another. A lot of three o'clock in the morning, heavy duty sales to somebody who's barely speaks
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English. I don't know what I bought. Tell the truth. All right. Very, very important.
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Where did you buy your coffee table? Where did you buy your coffee?
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Okay. So thanks. Thanks. Thanks everybody for listening. I appreciate it. Maybe we'll do
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